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re: Tyler Shough
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:40 am to saints5021
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:40 am to saints5021
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Just look at Drake Maye. The Patriots started Brissett, knowing he wasn't the future, for the first dozen games to give Maye a chance to acclimate to the NFL. Was anyone calling Maye a wasted pick in week 6 of last season?
Maye is 23 so he has time to sit. And I agree, I think every rookie should sit a year to learn. Especially if the roster around him is weak.
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:27 am to htran90
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He started this season with actual NFL players surrounding him and still went 1-4.
Im just going to assume you don't watch the games or don't have an understanding of what you are seeing.
Is he elite? No. Hard to win with the amount of mistakes this team makes. He's missing open receivers but to claim he's the reason we are 1-4 is retarded.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:52 am to saintsfan1977
I've watched him make good passes that should have been hauled in (hi juwan)
I've also seen him miss wide open throws he should hit.
Between the 20s he's fine, he doesn't make mistakes and often can make the right read. That's average enough.
When it matters, in the red zone, he is what he is - a backup at best who can't throw with anticipation consistently and because of that our red zone offense is arse. Because of that - he isn't the solution
I've also seen him miss wide open throws he should hit.
Between the 20s he's fine, he doesn't make mistakes and often can make the right read. That's average enough.
When it matters, in the red zone, he is what he is - a backup at best who can't throw with anticipation consistently and because of that our red zone offense is arse. Because of that - he isn't the solution
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:12 pm to htran90
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When it matters, in the red zone, he is what he is - a backup at best who can't throw with anticipation consistently and because of that our red zone offense is arse. Because of that - he isn't the solution
OK. Who is?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:49 pm to Snipe
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They didn't know they were going with Rattler when they picked at 40 last year.
Thank you. Someone with sense finally.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:35 pm to public_enemy
you'll get downvoted like people downvoted posters saying we should get dart. shough can't start and is 26 years old. was a bad pick at 40
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:28 pm to Macintosh
He really needed to do better.
Rattler is really elusive in the pocket.
That is his greatest trait right now.
Carr was like a statue.
Seaux looked like a statue.
Rattler is really elusive in the pocket.
That is his greatest trait right now.
Carr was like a statue.
Seaux looked like a statue.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:46 pm to Macintosh
These dudes are still defending the pick 
You keep drafting a QB until you find one.. ya, like the guy we drafted last year who is starting. Which was the whole argument for not wasting 40 on Shough
You keep drafting a QB until you find one.. ya, like the guy we drafted last year who is starting. Which was the whole argument for not wasting 40 on Shough
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:38 pm to public_enemy
Jaxson Dart might end up doing well. Saints may have messed up in the first round. I know the Saints won against NYG, but he could still be good.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:24 am to CubanSaint
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You’ll get downvoted, but this is the correct take. It was a waste of the 40th overall pick where we could have gotten a player who is starting now.
Was Patrick Maholmes, Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers wasted picks? They never saw the field for at least a year.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:42 am to saints5021
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Just look at Drake Maye. The Patriots started Brissett, knowing he wasn't the future, for the first dozen games to give Maye a chance to acclimate to the NFL.
Drake Maye: 22 years old as a rookie
Tyler Shough: 26 years old as a rookie
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:42 am to BZ504
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Saints may have messed up in the first round.
We drafted our left tackle for the next 10 yrs.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:49 am to saintsfan1977
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Was Patrick Maholmes, Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers wasted picks? They never saw the field for at least a year.
They weren’t competing for a job with the worst QB in the league
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:51 am to GynoSandberg
What you base rattler being the worst qb in the league on? Looks to be middle of the pack to me
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:27 am to BZ504
quote:in the end, both teams are losers. Except one has a qb who they feel is their future while we have a placeholder in rattler
I know the Saints won against NYG, but he could still be good.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:29 am to GynoSandberg
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You keep drafting a QB until you find one.. ya, like the guy we drafted last year who is starting.
He may be starting but we didn't find our QB
Those are two different things
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:03 am to GynoSandberg
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They weren’t competing for a job with the worst QB in the league
He's far from the worst QB in the league. A 5th rd pick is out performing some of the better qb's. Try again.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:27 am to msstate7
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What you base rattler being the worst qb in the league on? Looks to be middle of the pack to me
He was the worst QB in the league last year. We drafted a QB. The drafted 26 year old QB could not unseat Rattler
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He may be starting but we didn't find our QB
Those are two different things
“Find our QB” in the sense that this is a guy you’re going to give a long runway to. Not your QB of the next decade.
Bunchie you’re going to keep predicting it’s Shough’s week and you’re going to look up and it’s going to be like week 12. I think your perspective differs greatly from CKM.
The point from the beginning - if you wanted to test drive a Rattler ( and we should’ve) then, don’t draft a Shough. You cannot effectively test drive both these guys with enough reps in one season. At the end of the day we will end up with 4-5 wins, and the opportunity to draft another QB in the top 5 will be there. Then you won’t know what you have with Shough bc he never got a chance to prove anything. Then you’ll trade a depreciated asset that you burned pick 40 on, all while you could’ve accelerated the roster rebuild by adding a contributing player
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:30 am to GynoSandberg
I have a feeling in the history of the nfl lots of qb battles ended after 1 year of competition.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:33 am to GynoSandberg
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Bunchie you’re going to keep predicting it’s Shough’s week and you’re going to look up and it’s going to be like week 12.
You are right, but I have also said I only saw two spots to start him, and that is week 5 or after the bye week. Looking like its the bye week now
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I think your perspective differs greatly from CKM.
Clearly. CKM has decided he needs to protect his job and go with the very safe guy that won't win him anything but won't "lose" the game by making an egregious mistake. He's made a few of these ultra conservative "un-CSP" decisions that are concerning.
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