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re: Tua scored a 13 on the Wonderlic
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:52 am to warlock1974
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:52 am to warlock1974
quote:By that theory, he would never get picked. At some point reward exceeds risk.
What would it say about him if he did drop from Top 5 to 24?
What do the teams choosing 5 - 23 know or think that the Saints would not know or ignore?
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:53 am to NOSHAU
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By that theory, he would never get picked on day 1
FIFY
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:56 am to LNCHBOX
kid is going to have a great career
as far as fragile, the nfl of today has it to where you cant sneeze on a qb without 15 yds
if he fell out of the top 10 id pray we'd go get him
as far as fragile, the nfl of today has it to where you cant sneeze on a qb without 15 yds
if he fell out of the top 10 id pray we'd go get him
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:58 am to DomincDecoco
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as far as fragile, the nfl of today has it to where you cant sneeze on a qb without 15 yds
This is so lazy.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:00 am to jkylejohnson
It’s probably fair to say he didn’t take education to seriously in HS and college.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
The thing about Tua’s injuries are many of them are self inflicted because he holds onto the balk too long so he takes a lot of unnecessary hits, so I’m not sure I can chalk it up to just random bad luck
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:06 am to BilJ
That's coachable though, and something he'll need to get used .
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:13 am to LNCHBOX
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This is so lazy.
but applicable
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:15 am to Lester Earl
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That's coachable though, and something he'll need to get used .
I mean, can it? What if that's just his decision making skills? You have no idea if that's coachable or not for him.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:19 am to dcw7g
You quoted the wrong numbers. Those are Rosen’s numbers.
Here are Tua’s:
Here are Tua’s:
quote:
Beyond first read: -48.7%
Out of pocket: -63.6%
Adjusted platform: -35.2%
Move platform: -11.7%
Pressured: -22.4%
Into tight window: -2.1%
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:19 am to MightyYat
He holds the ball because his NFL OL allows him to, while his NFL WR's get open.
It's not a decision making problem.
It's a timing and protection thing. Most QBs coming into the NFL have to adjust to that. Game moves faster.
It's not a decision making problem.
It's a timing and protection thing. Most QBs coming into the NFL have to adjust to that. Game moves faster.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:25 am to Lester Earl
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He holds the ball because his NFL OL allows him to, while his NFL WR's get open.
It's not a decision making problem.
It's a timing and protection thing. Most QBs coming into the NFL have to adjust to that. Game moves faster.
So you're just assuming Tua has the ability to adjust to NFL game speed with 75% of his lower body surgically repaired? How do you know it's not his decision making? The answer is you don't. That's why he's such a wildcard top tier pick. Tua has been really good on a team that has better talent than 95% of everyone they play. There were also times where he looked awful against better defenses. The post a few up shows you the stats. His numbers under pressure and out of the pocket are terrible.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:26 am to 50_Tiger
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That’s Jameis Winston level stupid
I keep seeing this but the guy was admitted into Stanford, had a 4.0 in high school, and was like a two time academic all ACC. Shitty person? Probably. Stupid? Not really
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
I saw you were the last post on this thread and said to myself "a million dollars that whatever the consensus of this thread is, LE will be in there arguing the other side"
How does it feel to be completely defined as a person, based solely on the opposite of other people? You only exist as an argument. You arent a real person.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:27 am to TomAce
Jameis isn’t dumb. He’s just very weird/awkward.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:27 am to NOSHAU
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Wondering if some team is putting this info out on Tua in hopes of him falling.
Or if it’s Tua and his agent doing it. It’s hard for me to believe he’s that dumb.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:28 am to GynoSandberg
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% of uncatchably off-target throws targeting when an OPEN receiver 5-18 yards downfield in 2019:
Tua 4.3%
Hurts 5.0%
Burrow 5.1%
Love 14.1%
Herbert 18.1%
I think that is kind of what the article is speaking to. When things are perfect and the receiver is OPEN he's very accurate. Similar to Josh Rosen who had an even lower % in that category. It just that when things aren't "perfect" his numbers drop off significantly.
The talent level discrepancy of Bama vs. almost all of their opponents was VAST. Tua didn't have to go off script or make plays when things weren't "perfect" all that often. That's not going to be the case in the NFL. Particularity if he would be going to a "bad" team
That's not to say he still shouldn't be the second QB taken. I don't think any of the other guys, including Herbert, are particularly special. It's just that he may not be the all pro lock that many though he was heading into the draft
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:31 am to Alt26
I remember when Morris Claiborne scored a 4.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:36 am to Hester Carries
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I saw you were the last post on this thread and said to myself "a million dollars that whatever the consensus of this thread is, LE will be in there arguing the other side"
Imagine a world where arguing for drafting the consensus QB2 is considering being a contrarian.
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How does it feel to be completely defined as a person, based solely on the opposite of other people? You only exist as an argument. You arent a real person.
You are weak and insecure lmao. Id advise you to delete but im going to quote just so other people can laugh at how weak you are.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:41 am to 50_Tiger
You're thinking of Vince Young, who got a score in the single digits.
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