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re: Trade rumors for Kamara starting up with...the Eagles

Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:22 pm to
Maybe just based on rumors but damn. If we don’t get good Compensation I’ll be pissed
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 4:25 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Now post those stats from 2020 - 2022 Dude has played in 18 games in 3 seasons since 2019.


This is the classic fan view. None of his injuries were serious or required surgery, football people view it as bad luck, fans view as proof of something likely to happen repeatedly. CMacs best seasons were better than anything AK has done. He’s also younger. You can sit here and post stats all day but the market will not value AK the same way as Saints fans
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:40 pm to
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Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Now post those stats from 2020 - 2022 Dude has played in 18 games in 3 seasons since 2019.

He's pretending those facts don't matter to GM's


It doesn’t matter to GMs, it only matters to fans. He didn’t have anything surgically repaired so if he’s healthy he’s healthy. Fans think because he was hire before he will get hurt again.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:55 pm to
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It doesn’t matter to GMs, it only matters to fans.


Well thank God. Now the Thomas haters can chill over Thomas and his non surgically repaired foot.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61083 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:09 pm to
My bad i didn’t cover every possible contingency under the Sun.
Foot can be a different different animal and Thomas missed a basically 2 whole seasons with the same ankle injury. CMac sprained an ankle then came back and injured his shoulder which is unrelated. He was healthy to start last season and pulled a hamstring also unrelated but by all means continue to think NFL personnel people value Saints players the same way as Saints fans.

ETA the more important point at the moment is CMac is 100% healthy, Thomas is hurt.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 5:10 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:14 pm to
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What does that have to do in 2022?


What do his 2019 stats have to do with 2022?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61083 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:33 pm to
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What do his 2019 stats have to do with 2022?


I assume because Saints homers are arguing AK41 is just as good or better. At his peak CMac was clearly better. That he missed most of the next 2 seasons with injury doesn’t change that. It also doesn’t impact his value now that he’s healthy. He can argue it til you are blue in the face but AK is not likely that o get anything close to what Carolina for for McCaffery
Posted by Dopinderjeet
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:53 pm to
Frankly I think the 49ers overpaid for McCaffrey. I don't think we're getting anything close to that for Kamara. Good on the Panthers for getting that deal done.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:55 pm to
Career yds/touch...
Cmac - 5.8
AK - 5.8

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77186 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:07 pm to
We will see....maybe. Hey good luck in the series.










Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22280 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:09 pm to
I agree with what you’re saying, but leverage is also a factor. Carolina is packing it in and moving on; which gives them less leverage in trying to claim a player has a certain amount of value. Saints are making a push for the NFC South. As a result, you would assume a team would have to pay more for an asset like AK
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:10 pm to
The 49ers panicked trading that much. Makes me think shannahan and Lynch feeling some pressure
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:13 pm to
The Saints aren’t trading Alvin Kamara. Why is this thread so long?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:14 pm to
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Yet people keep posting about how the Saints need to start trading everyone.


Mickey has proven over the years that he can work magic with the cap. I trust he can trade everyone of value for return cap relief and draft picks.
If not this team is screwed for years to come.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21276 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:18 pm to
Why would the Eagles give us the 1st pick in the 2023 draft for Kamara?
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:26 pm to
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Why would the Eagles give us the 1st pick in the 2023 for Kamara?


Super Bowl

It’s a reasonable price to pay for a guaranteed offensive difference maker for the next 3-5 years.
Posted by Camnola
God’s Country
Member since Sep 2012
236 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:31 pm to
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Mickey has proven over the years that he can work magic with the cap. I trust he can trade everyone of value for return cap relief and draft picks. If not this team is screwed for years to come.


No offense to you BUT Mickey don’t know shite. The fact that Mickey has the Saints in this situation is a fireable offense. He has been given to long to keep kicking the can down the road.
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
7574 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:57 pm to
Tis is a chance for the Saints to get the Eagles back. If you want Kamara it'll just cost you a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. The first 2 in 2023 and the 3rd round pick in 2024.
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
7574 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:02 pm to
They didn't overpay, frankly, I'm surprised that Carolina didn't get a 1st round pick out of that. Listen, McCaffrey and Kamara aren't your average RBs that can just run well. They're special backs that do both running the football and catching it equally well. I think McCaffrey ís a tad better than Kamara, but there's not much separation between the two.
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