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re: The math has spoken: Jameis is better than Dalton

Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:24 pm to
The playcalling is different because Winston can’t execute those plays. He’s not a quick/precision pass guy, either with his mental processing or his arm talent.

I also think his command of the offense is worse than daltons and effects how creative we are with motions and screens.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:26 pm to
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We need to guarantee a high 2nd round pick and that's about the best way to do it.


We're acting like dalton is categorically better and he's been very mediocre. If you hit on jameis great. He's a legit thrower and you can minimize your risk taking with an improved run game. If it cuts the other way frick it suck and get that better 2nd rd pick
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:27 pm to
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The playcalling is different because Winston can’t execute those plays


Lol he can execute staying on the sideline for the taysom plays.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:27 pm to
So the offense with no weapons at wr has averaged 30 with one qb in 3 games.

The qb with all his weapons averaged 17 a game in 3 games, and the math has spoken?

Did you ever pass 1st grade math???
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:29 pm to
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The qb with all his weapons averaged 17 a game in 3 games, and the math has spoken


If we get to use injuries as an excuse we both know jameis should not have played hurt. Those 2 games he was clearly not right.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:30 pm to
Wonder what Dalton looks like with a healthy receiver corps… Hmmmm
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:33 pm to
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we get to use injuries as an excuse we both know jameis should not have played hurt. Those 2 games he was clearly not right.


If he’s playing, he can’t be that injured. Those guys have not suited up.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:33 pm to
Probably about the same tbh.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:36 pm to
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he’s playing, he can’t be that injured


If he misses two games for the same injury he shouldn't have played the previous two. That is very obvious.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:39 pm to
Without his top 3 WR. Sorry but Jameis is garbage. More natural talent than Dalton but give me the guy that won’t make the stupid mistakes like Wi atom always seems to do. He is what he is.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 4:40 pm
Posted by WhoDatNC
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:40 pm to
Defense lost the game. Carmichael went all les miles in 4th qtr.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:52 pm to
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We're acting like dalton is categorically better and he's been very mediocre.


Both of these are quite correct.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:32 pm to
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Both of these are quite correct.


Jameis had one quarter of elite play after coming back from an acl. Then his injuries were too much to play through.

Dalton has had no quartets of elite play and is 100% healthy with a dead arm.

It is what it is
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:34 pm to
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A healthy Jameis is better. I'm glad we can finally put this always silly debate to bed




I don't have a strong feeling either way but this isn't a fair argument. Dalton hasn't had much receivers to play with.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:59 pm to
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We're acting like dalton is categorically better and he's been very mediocre.


Dalton is absolutely mediocre. Dalton is also categorically better than Winston.
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:16 pm to
Jameis cannot do pre snap reads and adjustments. He’s bad.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:26 pm to
Of course he is. It isn’t remotely close if Jameis is healthy. Jameis isn’t some elite qb but at least he can push the ball downfield in an nfl game and sometimes very well.
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:29 pm to
This whole thread reeks of you being a black guy and only defending Jameis because he’s black LMAO.. kinda like SOME white LSU fans do for Nuss. When one guy is CLEARLY better it doesn’t matter Bc of the color of his skin
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:09 pm to
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This whole thread reeks of you being a black guy and only defending Jameis because he’s black LMAO.. kinda like SOME white LSU fans do for Nuss. When one guy is CLEARLY better it doesn’t matter Bc of the color of his skin


There are no statistics you can provide to prove your point so you resort to racial bullshite. Yikes
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:44 pm to
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There are no statistics you can provide to prove your point so you resort to racial bull shite. Yikes


How about the one statistic you keep ignoring and won’t comment on….
Both started 3 games.
One qb has had by far better starters than the other in those three games.
Yet the offense only averaged 17 a game with those healthy skill players.

The offense has averaged 30 with the red rocket. No statistics you can muster up compares to the offense putting up almost double unless you are just really stupid or don’t understand math….

17<30
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 10:48 pm
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