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re: The last TD is the most damning thing to fire DA

Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:50 am to
You my friend along with this organization are completely tone deaf if you don’t think this is a big deal. It’s embarrassing on so many levels what just happened to DA and how he handled it.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64407 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:52 am to
Front office guy huh?
And you don't have to lie.

The Saints played around .500 ALL YEAR LONG!
The FO does know. The entire football world knows.
Staying the course protects your job and means another crap year.
Go back to what you know...end zone decor.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:01 am to
Almost no chance of it happening bc the FO is spineless just like the HC, but the sweet irony of blowing out a rival in week 18 only to have a player mutiny be the reason DA is let go sooner would be one of my favorite Saints stories of all time.

Jameis has been nothing but a consummate professional and great teammate since he got to Nola. He’s not the QB we need but I wish we could find a spot in the franchise for someone like him. The OL and offense stand with him. Even Cam, the long time defensive captain of Allen’s side of the ball, is another high character guy that’s siding with the players.

This is a horrible, awful look for DA. I’ve never been less confident in him as a HC and I’ve only ever thought he was awful in the role. One of the worst ever in history, without question. We will never make the playoffs as long as he’s coach and every day he still is puts our goals further out of reach.
Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
2281 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:12 am to
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Its so funny if DA just went along with the TD being scored and didn’t apologize, none of this shite would happen. In fact, I think the fanbase would love him for pouring it on the Falcons

This was not a player mutiny, this was one play in the last 1:10 seconds of the season. None of the players seemed to have any ill will or sharp negative tone towards DA in regards to this, other than "we wanted to help our teammate". I only played HS ball but to me this is not a very big issue, given the context.

Also if DA had just gone along with it and then it later comes out that he had not actually called the play then the same folks complaining would still be complaining saying "he didn't have the balls to call out his own players, and there's no accountability with Allen"
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:15 am to
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This was not a player mutiny, this was one play in the last 1:10 seconds of the season. None of the players seemed to have any ill will or sharp negative tone towards DA in regards to this, other than "we wanted to help our teammate". I only played HS ball but to me this is not a very big issue, given the context. Also if DA had just gone along with it and then it later comes out that he had not actually called the play then the same folks complaining would still be complaining saying "he didn't have the balls to call out his own players, and there's no accountability with Allen"


Name the last time you heard this happen in a NFL game since you don’t think its a big deal. I’ll wait for your answer.
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2136 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:48 am to
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This was not a player mutiny, this was one play in the last 1:10 seconds of the season. None of the players seemed to have any ill will or sharp negative tone towards DA in regards to this, other than "we wanted to help our teammate". I only played HS ball but to me this is not a very big issue, given the context.


It's not about a mutiny or whether or not the players "like" Dennis Allen. It's about respect. And they don't respect him. I've had bosses I like but that I didn't respect. You can't run a successful business like that. It's impossible.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24629 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:56 am to
quote:

So tired of this lame talking point


speaking of lame talking points, how's the pitch, mate? Uni colors to your liking?


Only thing lame is you, weirdo
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1189 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Problem is I suspect Gayle doesnt know football like most owners and she might be heavily dependent on Loomis.


That's usually the case. Most owners don't really get involved and hire a front office capable of managing it. Rather that than guys like Tepper and JJ coming in and doing more harm than good. You gotta let the guys you hired do the job, and you also have to be patient and give them time. However, once they are unable to do the job or like in DA's case lose the team you have to go a different direction. It's only going to get worse.
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
466 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:13 pm to
I think if they did this with Sean, he would have told the coach to go frick off. But behind the scenes, Winston would have gotten chewed out, maybe cut.
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
466 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:13 pm to
Double post, sorry.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:17 pm to
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I think if they did this with Sean, he would have told the coach to go frick off. But behind the scenes, Winston would have gotten chewed out, maybe cut.


Theres already anonymous players reported with the Broncos saying they don’t like the way Sean has handled things with Russ. But nobody has the balls to say it in public in media, tweet support for it- like our players do. Thats the difference- it’s clear slap in the face and disrespect of DA and his decisions.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
3024 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:21 pm to
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(I don’t mind this, but a big no-no for the everyone gets a trophy crowd) but they scored in a blowout from the 1 yard line on their own decision and play call AFTER YOU SPECIFICALLY TOLD THEM NOT TO.


scoring isn't the problem. Doing it from the victory formation is the problem. most defenders just stand there at the snap. It poses a safety issue. If they would have just called a regular play, there would be no issue
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
358 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 1:13 pm to
I enjoyed the pettiness but after thinking on it I have decided it will bite the Saints the next time they run a Victory play and the opposing defense goes 100%, just in case.

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71705 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 1:15 pm to
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I enjoyed the pettiness but after thinking on it I have decided it will bite the Saints the next time they run a Victory play and the opposing defense goes 100%, just in case.


Probably not. If we're on the 1 in victory, maybe.
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