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re: Team still shopping players, another deal expected soon
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:47 am to saintsalwaysnumber1
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:47 am to saintsalwaysnumber1
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Im hearing Cam jordan also and maybe Lewis to skins for Garcon
Wut?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:47 am to CocoLoco
I don't think Lewis being traded is that far fetched, but for Garcon? Better be a 1st involved in that too.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:48 am to CocoLoco
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maybe Lewis to skins for Garcon
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:48 am to Brageous
I would not be upset to see more youth movement in our interior line. I know a lot of people have been giving Evans a pass for poor line play due to injury. but he has been pretty average for the last 3ish seasons.
My biggest concern is we would have potentially 3 new interior linemen to start the season. You have to start nre players at some point, but 3 in one off season is a lot to ask for chemistry.
My biggest concern is we would have potentially 3 new interior linemen to start the season. You have to start nre players at some point, but 3 in one off season is a lot to ask for chemistry.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:48 am to saintsalwaysnumber1
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Im hearing Cam jordan also and maybe Lewis to skins for Garcon.
Garcon isn't worth a starting corner.
Wherever you're hearing this from, i'd keep away from all future contact
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:48 am to saintsalwaysnumber1
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Posted by saintsalwaysnumber1
Im hearing Cam jordan also and maybe Lewis to skins for Garcon.
that's terrible
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:49 am to HollierThanThou
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Garcon for a starting DE and CB!?
I don't think he meant both.
Cam Jordan as a separate trade and Lewis for Garcon. At least thats how I read it.
ETA: Nice edit.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:50 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:51 am to SaintEB
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All indications was that Evans was reworking his deal, earlier in the offseason (sometime before the Graham trade).
Possible, but I feel like if they were just reworking his deal (whether it be a pay cut, or restructure), it would have happened by now. The fact that nothing has been done yet, similar to Jimmy's deal not have been touch prior to his trade when it was expected to be restructured, says to me that a cut or trade for Evans is about to happen. Being that he should have value on the trade market, I would expect a trade.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:53 am to HollierThanThou
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Wherever you're hearing this from, i'd keep away from all future contact
It's the same guy that said we should "get" John Kuhn from Green Bay, and make him our Tight End. I wouldn't pay too much attention to him.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:54 am to mm2316
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The Saints are a fascinating team to watch right now, and I think it has caught many people who follow the league by surprise. These are problems that when you look closely, you can see shaping up two or three years before they become very noticeable. For the Saints, it began with the contract of Drew Brees, which was heavily backloaded and simply deferred problems until the 2014 season. You can deal with one contract like that, but in an attempt to continue to chase the Super Bowl, they made a number of short-sighted contract decisions with veteran players to allow them to keep adding players to the team while just pushing cap charges into the future. When they signed Jimmy Graham and Jairus Byrd last season, that was the final straw. It was a one-year window before the bubble would burst.
Last season the Saints began the year somewhere in the ballpark of $10 million over the cap, before they began deferring more cap charges to the future. That led to this past offseason, with the Saints somewhere around $25 million over the salary cap. They probably would have begun 2016 $35 million over the cap if they remained status quo. Even releasing the players with the worst contracts would have provided little relief. They were just a sinking ship taking on more water. The team really had no choice. The cap was going to ruin the franchise at some point, and they are at least able to turn some bad contracts into draft assets. Players like Thomas Morstead or Rafael Bush might be in danger of release at some point. I could see the team exploring a trade for Kenny Vaccaro if they can receive reasonable value for him this summer.
Moving forward, I would still be watching two big-name players closely in New Orleans. The immediate one is guard Jahri Evans, who has an $11 million cap hit. The second name is Drew Brees, not so much this year but in 2016. Brees will enter the final year of his contract in 2016 with a $27.6 million cap number. Brees will be 37. If the two sides cannot agree on a new deal by next year, I would anticipate that the Saints will be very open to trading Brees, who would likely still hold great value even in his late-30s. That would completely close the chapter on this era of Saints football, but it’s a move they should consider if it gets them the assets needed to turn over the organization. They won’t receive anything if they let him walk away.
from MMQB
I believe this is what our fans call "Loomising"
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:57 am to Lester Earl
quote:this is the most often used line by Peter King
I could see
a complete hack. he's a mouthpiece for the league office and nothing more. with all of the access he is given, he can't break anything, players don't like speaking to him. I get why he is so popular, but I'm not taking any speculation from Peter King seriously unless it is an idea he stole from someone who knows what they're talking about. he certainly doesn't have an in with the saints anymore...he burned that bridge badly. that's why he has to relate what the seahawks gm told him about the saints
nothing the saints have done this offseason was speculated upon previously. they're pretty unpredictable. they know what they want to do, but its pretty clear no one else does.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:58 am to DelU249
those are Jason Fitzgerald's words, from Over The Cap.com, not Peter King
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:59 am to Lester Earl
Well, if they had won another Super Bowl, we probably wouldn't be complaining. But, they didn't. So now they are in tons of trouble and we are seeing the effects of those decisions. Hopefully, they are fixing them in a way that allows them to remain competitive.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:00 am to Lester Earl
quote:I guess I would add the caveat of ben grubbs, but everything else has been wholly unpredictable.
nothing the saints have done this offseason was speculated upon previously. they're pretty unpredictable. they know what they want to do, but its pretty clear no one else does.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:02 am to sicboy
Scherff and Collins in first round baby!!!! lol.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:12 am to mm2316
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All indications was that Evans was reworking his deal, earlier in the offseason (sometime before the Graham trade).
Possible, but I feel like if they were just reworking his deal (whether it be a pay cut, or restructure), it would have happened by now. The fact that nothing has been done yet, similar to Jimmy's deal not have been touch prior to his trade when it was expected to be restructured, says to me that a cut or trade for Evans is about to happen.
you responded with exactly my point of saying Evans isn't agreeing to the paycut. I believe if it were to happen, then it would've by now. It has been weeks since that announcement was made. Now we sit on the brink of violating the cap rules, and still no deal has been struck.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:15 am to Midget Death Squad
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I believe if it were to happen, then it would've by now. It has been weeks since that announcement was made.
I agree with you. I was hoping they could keep him, because having a great Center next to him would help his game. However, if he thinks he can make more on the open market, and probably can, then I can't be mad at him.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:18 am to Lester Earl
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those are Jason Fitzgerald's words, from Over The Cap.com
He's a great reporter/cap guy, but he doesn't have any sources.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:18 am to saintsalwaysnumber1
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Im hearing Cam jordan also and maybe Lewis to skins for Garcon.
I'm hearing that you are full of shite.
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