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Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:44 am to BilJ
Moore was a high level college QB this century. He was in the NFL less than a decade ago. He has been involved with either developing or taking to the next level 3 very good young QBs recently.
Payton is an elite offensive mind and an actual great HC. But he’s developed 1 QB: Bo Nix.
Every QB the saints drafted never amounted to anything.
Payton is an elite offensive mind and an actual great HC. But he’s developed 1 QB: Bo Nix.
Every QB the saints drafted never amounted to anything.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:50 am to Fun Bunch
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He has been involved with either developing or taking to the next level 3 very good young QBs recently.
Who? You're not including Hurts in this, I hope. Shane Steichen developed Hurts to take the step to the next level. His best 2 years pre-dated Moore in PHI
Moore failed at doing this with Herbert as well.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
I’ll respectfully disagree with your assessment.
Again. I am clearly not saying he is a better HC. Payton is an elite HC. An elite offensive mind.
Again. I am clearly not saying he is a better HC. Payton is an elite HC. An elite offensive mind.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
They took him to be a backup
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:00 am to Fun Bunch
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I’ll respectfully disagree with your assessment.
It's not just mine. I'll post the PFF grades if you want.
2022 was clearly Hurts' apex. You can't even argue team accomplishments as they were the #1 seed in the NFC and barely lost the Super Bowl.
so far, 2021 is Herbert's
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can't tell me Shough was that superior of a prospect to a guy like McCord
I mean if you knew Sanders was available in the 4th
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:01 am to SlidellCajun
They took him to be the starter. It is what it is.
All of SFPs dribble means nothing until the season starts.
He won’t eat crow if Shuck is good. But i promise he will start a click bait thread the second he throws his first interception.
All of SFPs dribble means nothing until the season starts.
He won’t eat crow if Shuck is good. But i promise he will start a click bait thread the second he throws his first interception.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:04 am to Fun Bunch
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Moore was a high level college QB this century. He was in the NFL less than a decade ago. He has been involved with either developing or taking to the next level 3 very good young QBs recently.
Payton is an elite offensive mind and an actual great HC. But he’s developed 1 QB: Bo Nix
Ok so let me get this straight, you have one guy that has developed two but you trust a guy that hasn’t done it once yet…more?
You’re going to credit him for guys he had no real hand in drafting or developing but none for Payton and taking Brees to HOF level play?
Thats interesting logic
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:21 am to Fun Bunch
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Every QB the saints drafted never amounted to anything.
Also sick of this one, name me someone with a great track record of QBs drafted 3rd round or later ?
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
McCord hasn’t been drafted and there’s been talk Shough was going in the second. So you tell me, do you think there’s a difference?
I’m not even defending the Shough pick, I don’t love it and agree with the general point that someone with his experience should be dominating and wasn’t.
I’m not even defending the Shough pick, I don’t love it and agree with the general point that someone with his experience should be dominating and wasn’t.
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:24 am to NOSA
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So you tell me, do you think there’s a difference?
Not really. Neither are likely to be plus starters in the NFL.
One cost a top-40 pick.
The other will cost a 4th or 5th.
Tell me which path is the smarter, more EV+ one.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:28 am to Fun Bunch
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I’ll respectfully disagree with your assessment.
Hurts was SECOND in MVP voting just a few seasons ago
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:29 am to BilJ
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Ok so let me get this straight, you have one guy that has developed two
??? Who is the 2nd besides Nix?
Brees was already developed.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:34 am to Fun Bunch
Yall hate Payton
I’m glad he’s in Denver where he’s greatly appreciated
I’m glad he’s in Denver where he’s greatly appreciated
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:44 am to theducks
Payton is the greatest coach in Saints history and an elite HC. He should probably be an NFL HOFer when he’s done. I love him.
So..what are you talking about?
So..what are you talking about?
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:44 am to Fun Bunch
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Brees was already developed.
What do you call the jump he made under Payton to become a top 5 QB All Time?
Payton was 17-5 with Jameis, Taysom and Teddy B too. Call it development or creating optimal offense to fit his QBs. There is something tangible there
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
If you are going to take chances....and Shough is a risk, then you might as well roll with it and take Sanders. Sanders threw for more yards, had a better completion percentage and a comparable TD/INT ratio playing in Louisville. Prior to 2024 he did not set the world on fire in a "lesser" league like the Big 12 over 3 years at Texas Tech. He's broken his collar bone 2× and blew out his ankle.
At Louisville he threw for about 3200 yards and was iffy prior to that with a career 61% completion percentage
Sanders has thrown for 14,000 yards over 4 years.
If you are going to roll the dice on Shough, your odds would still be better if you ran with Sanders and read him and Deion the riot act prior to drafting at #40. Sanders is nowhere near the "project" that Shough is at this point.
Shough has to be day 1 starter. Moore just placed his future on the line by selecting him....Morphradite Mickey also put whatever credibility he has left with this as well
At Louisville he threw for about 3200 yards and was iffy prior to that with a career 61% completion percentage
Sanders has thrown for 14,000 yards over 4 years.
If you are going to roll the dice on Shough, your odds would still be better if you ran with Sanders and read him and Deion the riot act prior to drafting at #40. Sanders is nowhere near the "project" that Shough is at this point.
Shough has to be day 1 starter. Moore just placed his future on the line by selecting him....Morphradite Mickey also put whatever credibility he has left with this as well
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:50 am to GynoSandberg
Well this was wrong
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:54 am to KiwiHead
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If you are going to take chances....and Shough is a risk, then you might as well roll with it and take Sanders.
Naw frick that. Sanders is a mid talent clown. Shough is about to hit Medicare but he has a lot of physical talent.
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