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re: Sean Payton and Michael Bidwell seen together at the Arizona Cardinals practice facility.

Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:35 am to
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:35 am to
I'd take their #3 pick in exchange for Payton and ask for nothing else. Get it done.
We can draft our QB with that pick.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:36 am to
If you land #3, you don't stay at #3. You either send an offer to Chi to jump to #1, or you trade back and pick up more picks for your rebuild. #3 is not an ideal position as you are "stuck" with whoever falls between (Levis, Young & Stroud). You have to love all 3 to be willing to just wait.

Edit: Other option would be to sit at 3 and let 2 of those QBs go (Chicago will not pick #1) and just take Will Anderson to finally get that DE opposite (and eventually replace) Cam
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:38 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13941 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

If you land #3, you don't stay at #3. You either send an offer to Chi to jump to #1, or you trade back and pick up more picks for your rebuild. #3 is not an ideal position as you are "stuck" with whoever falls between (Levis, Young & Stroud). You have to love all 3 to be willing to just wait.

Edit: Other option would be to sit at 3 and let 2 of those QBs go (Chicago will not pick #1) and just take Will Anderson to finally get that DE opposite (and eventually replace) Cam


If they are at #3 (which I doubt), they have to do whatever it takes to get their franchise QB. They cannot take a DE as they will not be that high again (in theory) for some time.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37425 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:31 pm to
That will be a #3 please
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:37 pm to
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We are getting that first pick....There have been numerous cases made that Sean Payton is more valuable to an organization than a franchise qb. He wins football games. The Cardinals have invested in their franchise qb heavily. They need a qb coach who can get the most out of that investment. His wife is a spa chick. Arizona makes the most sense


I will bet you anything they will not give us #3 for Sean. I’ll bet the fate of the planet. We aren’t getting that pick.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:39 pm to
Which is fine, but they have to pay a tax on that.

1st next year and an extra 2 next year as well.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:44 pm to
I agree with that. I think, if we do the deal, we end up with:

Their 2nd this year (pick 34)
Their 1st next year
Another additional pick. I hope next years 2nd, but maybe a 3rd.

All of that together is not in the same stratosphere of value as the 3rd pick.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79998 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:48 pm to
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All of that together is not in the same stratosphere of value as the 3rd pick.


It’s not, but it’s damn strong. You’re talking about 3 top 50 picks(assuming the cardinals 2nd is in the top 50 picks which I think is safe)
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
8147 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Their 2nd this year (pick 34)
Their 1st next year
Another additional pick. I hope next years 2nd, but maybe a 3rd.

All of that together is not in the same stratosphere of value as the 3rd pick.


That's been my assumption if it ends up being Arizona..

2nd that is almost a first
maybe a third that's almost a 2nd
then 1st next year

that gives us 4 picks inside of top 71 this year
+ our #1 overall next year and Arizona's late-ish first in '24
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:18 pm to
Agreed. It would be a great package for us to get, and just what we need to reload.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:25 pm to
With the 2 early seconds, we should be able to address 2 of these spots - g, dt, s, and wr.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:55 pm to
F all this about a 2nd. Arizona wants him? Then you will give us the 3rd overall pick, and then some 2024 picks. Oh well if you don’t like it.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179944 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:00 pm to
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F all this about a 2nd. Arizona wants him? Then you will give us the 3rd overall pick, and then some 2024 picks. Oh well if you don’t like it.



I'm 100% ok with a 2nd and they throw in their next year's 1st.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:02 pm to
Cool idea... I'm gonna post my car for sale today for about 3x what is worth, and I won't come down at all. I won't sell the car, but at least I'll still have car unlike the saints when Sean goes elsewhere when the contract runs out.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25123 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:33 pm to
We’re not getting #3. 2nd this year and 1st next
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77172 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:47 pm to
Trading it for more picks 23-24 draft.
Posted by Turftoe
Denver
Member since Mar 2016
4418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:07 pm to
Denver finna to panic if Ryan’s truly is favoring Houston
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13941 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Cool idea... I'm gonna post my car for sale today for about 3x what is worth, and I won't come down at all. I won't sell the car, but at least I'll still have car unlike the saints when Sean goes elsewhere when the contract runs out.


What if the buyer's only options were to buy your top of the line car and the other options were broken down cars that were not reliable at all? Should he wait 2 years to see if your car becomes available for free?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:35 pm to
The insane draft capital that some are wanting here might even be semi-realistic if it netted Sean on a decent contract. This doesn't seem to be the case though... apparently Sean wants insane money. So if you have to pay insane draft capital and insane salary, it gets to the point where even a great coach isn't worth it
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8430 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:48 pm to
What % of the conversation was about Bobby McCray’s hit?
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