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re: Schefter: Saints sign Taysom to extension

Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Bunch what can happen in a year that is going to increase his value lol

He’s a cool weapon but

Kamara
MT
Sanders
Cook
Murray

Will all out touch him if healthy

That’s a lot of money for the 6th man of your offense WHO YOU HAD LOCKED IN AT 1/4th THE PRICE


Maybe him being a potential backup or starting qb option as well?

It's not JUST about the weapon x role. It's also about his potential at qb, whether you or others like you agree with Paytom or not. They see him as a legit option at qb.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Most of the guarantees are in year 2. So no.


You aren’t comprehending the points. Saints essentially added a guaranteed year to his guaranteed 4.6 yr deal.

This is logic, not semantics.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:39 pm to
The guy I responded too (or more accurately the guy he was responding too) said this was a 1 year, $16 mil deal, not a 1 year extension.

Maybe it's semantics and he meant it's only a 1 year, $16 mil extension, but that's not what he literally said. If that's what he meant then yeah obviously.

So my argument was based on IF he meant the 1st thing, not the 2nd.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:41 pm to
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said this was a 1 year, $16 mil deal, not a 1 year extension.


Looking past semantics of it, it essentially IS, even though it’s wrapped up in the details of this 2 yr contract. You are looking at his comment too literally.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279263 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Maybe him being a potential backup or starting qb option as well?

It's not JUST about the weapon x role. It's also about his potential at qb, whether you or others like you agree with Paytom or not. They see him as a legit option at qb.




I mean ignore what I think.

The market dictates what he is worth & it’s not what he just got paid
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:45 pm to
If he meant the first then no because the majority of the guarantees are in year 2 and no one cuts a player that will cost them cap (around $10 mil in this case) except in extreme cases (like Galette).

But looking at it I do think I took his post too literally and he meant it's 1 ADDITIONAL year at $16 mil, not that it's a 1 year, $16 mil deal.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:47 pm to
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The market dictates what he is worth & it’s not what he just got paid


There was NO market because the price of the 1st killed it. So we have ZERO clue what he was worth to any other team.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:04 pm to
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He wasn’t offered because no one was losing a 1st rd pick for him.

Whether it was $5mil or $12mil.

That’s why no one even kicked the tires
Right, which is why saying our offer is terrible because no one else offered that is disingenuous without factoring in the 1st round pick.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:06 pm to
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But looking at it I do think I took his post too literally and he meant it's 1 ADDITIONAL year at $16 mil, not that it's a 1 year, $16 mil deal.



Exactly. You’re way too literal of a dude sometimes.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:10 pm to
Not because I'm being facetious. I take people at their word so as to not twist what's actually posted. If they correct what they mean after then I'm like oh yeah I see that.

I have to correct what I mean a lot too. Harder to get across meaning over typed text.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279263 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:15 pm to
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There was NO market because the price of the 1st killed it. So we have ZERO clue what he was worth to any other team.


We know that no one thinks he is a starting caliber nfl QB

We also know that the Saints fairly owned his rights for $4.6mil & they still decided to pay him more despite not being worth that
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27369 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:23 pm to
He will touch the ball way more this year

Payton realized in that playoff game just how under used taysom was
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:30 pm to
I would love to see Taysom lined up more in the backfield when in shotgun as the RB/HBack.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:30 pm to
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He's looking at JUST the guarantees and is mistaken.

This is a legit 2 year, $21 mil contract. We have zero reason nor leverage to cut him after this year, even if he isn't the starting or backup qb.
To add another wrinkle, we do not know what the guarantee is for. If it is only guaranteed for injury or guaranteed on a certain date, there still are potential future decisions. We'll see when the details come out.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279263 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:30 pm to
Even If his touches double he still isn’t worth it & is still the 6th best weapon in the offense & you still have to take Brees out the game for most of his touches
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:31 pm to
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despite not being worth that


Saints did despite many Saint fans being naive of what the organization thinks of what Taysom is going to be for their franchise
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:33 pm to
I agree Zombie. We couldn't afford to do that without JW in the wings.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279263 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:35 pm to
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what Taysom is going to be for their franchise


That’s an irresponsible way to hand out contracts Chad

This is cute Sean Payton. A total emotional decision
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27369 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:35 pm to
Yeah the money is to keep him happy because he Might be the future qb
Some of this money has to do with that, imo
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27369 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:37 pm to
I think he will line up alot more in gadget roles and receievr-te
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