Saints will succeed with defense in 2024.

For the pass rush to really improve, the Saints will need to play more from in the lead.

DA even alluded to that today.

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Then it comes down to Jordan not being washed and 1 or 2 of Young, Turner, Foskey coming on

When you have real pass rush with just your ends, with 4 guys that can hold up in the secondary not to mention Demario Davis the defense should still be a very effective group

Problem will still be offense for the Saints. When your middle of the pack or worse at every position group...there's going to be some rough weeks during the season.

If OL can get to a functional level by the end of our opening gauntlet stretch then maybe we figure out enough to maximize the rest of the schedule but there's a lot of fingers crossed, prayers sent, hoping and wishing when it comes to a positive outlook for 2024

You can only smoke and mirror in the NFL for so long and I just don't know about anything on offense for us. Are Kamara and Jamal already declining, do we have a starting OL, do we have enough at WR, can Kendre, Perry, Means, or someone step up...that doesn't even include QB...everything feels like a question mark

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I agree with all of this. Before last season I questioned our DE pass rush ability & if we could get to 20 sacks between them but believed we'd only be 12-14. Jordan I had figured would get 6-8 sacks and the rest were question marks between Turner, Granderson, Kpassagnon, & Foskey and said between those four I wouldn't expect anything more than 6 sacks. Low and behold I had the total number spot on at 14 but I had it backwards as Granderson took a big step forward with 8.5, Kpassagnon 3.5, Jordan 2, Turner 0, Foskey 0.
Thankfully defense got a bit creative and Demario tied a career high 6.5, Bresee 4.5, and Shepherd had a career high 3.5.

I feel slightly better going into 2024 for some reason, maybe I'm just banking on offense being more efficient and putting the defense in better positions, but glass half empty we definitely still have question marks.

Is Cam Jordan done? Can Granderson repeat or was it a 1yr wonder? Will Young be healthy, and can he provide a spark? Can Turner stay healthy and deliver anywhere near his 1st rd pick status? Will Foskey play "loose" and get on the field? Will Demario finally show his age? Will Werner take a step forward instead of back? Can Gay produce? Secondary is about the only unit on the entire team that I feel good about!

Offense has to be better by default, addition by subtraction after getting rid of Carmichael's playcalling. I could see total numbers at the end of the year being only slightly better in areas due to us putting up stats in or near garbage time last season, but I believe efficiency will be much improved this year. Buttttt looking at each position group individually it is littered with uncertainty.

How well can our question mark of an o-line perform with new players at 3/5 positions? Can Fuaga play at LT as a rookie after strictly RT in college? Is Penning salvageable at RT? Will Salvaderi show up at LG?

Run game has got to improve, last 2 seasons I only had confidence with Taysom running. That is mainly due to Carmichael i truly believe. As good as Kamara is he is not a take over a game back, but if the o-line & scheme can be even average then he can show off. Williams I refuse to believe fell off a cliff from '22 to '23, but can he prove that? Miller looked good in spot duty, but can he stay healthy enough to improve on that? After that I am curious about Jordan Mims and James Robinson, but also don't believe either could be successfull without improved o-line play & scheme

WRs should be an above average group, borderline good, but not likely to be great I would say. Olave is a great WR2/good WR1 but hopefully takes that "elite" step this year. Shaheed I think could have a great year and was held back by Carmichael. He's not just fast, he's also quick on shorter routes, crisper route running than most might expect, and is aggressive to the ball. After that we are relying strictly on potential & hope that AT Perry or Cedric Wilson firmly step up to WR3 status as a legit bigger bodied weapon and not just used to occupy a DB to clear the field. Hopefully someone between Stanley Morgan, Bub Means, Kyle Sheets, Mason Tipton, and Jermaine Jackson surprises us being an option.

TE relied heavily on potential last season hoping Johnson would step up, but he did not. Moreau is who he always has been, a better blocker than receiving option even though many here think he's more than that. Graham we kept on the sidelines in the redzone is still arguably the most puzzling & aggravating piece of Carmichael's offense last season. I would absolutely sign Graham back, situational player maybe getting 10-12 snaps a game could still prove useful. Taysom may be used more as a TE this year, but he's still as slash player. Holker has some ability but also has some physical limitations thus was undrafted.

Then finally Carr. He played bad in some series & games last season, but played pretty well in others. He missed open reads at times & got rid of the ball checking down way to quick several times last year too, and that is absolutely his fault but also you have to contribute some to playcalling & o-line play. Couple things that were solely his faults were at times holding onto the ball too long, and firing fast balls in at WRs just beyond LOS, and throwing inaccurate passes on the short dump offs.

Breese - DPOY

The roster is good enough to win the division, but that’s been the case for the last 3 years. Dennis Allen isn’t going to get the job done with a mediocre roster.

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But I get Saints fans perpetual doom and gloom attitude

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Being realistic is not doom and gloom.

The Saints have the worst Head Coach/QB combo in the league. The Raiders or Cardinals could be in the discussion.

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Perpetual gloom and doom is right. It’s so predictable.

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Go visit Saints Report if you want moderator controlled sunshine pumping propaganda shoved up your arse 24/7.

To succeed with defense you need multiple productive, talented pass rushers.

Just don’t think we have the talent to be one of these dominant Ds especially as our leaders are all very old by nfl standards at this point.