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re: Saints trading CGJ to eagles for 5th and 6th round picks.

Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:33 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:33 am to
I thought Roby was more of a boundary corner?

I have to go file some stuff but I'll pull up PFF+ in a bit to look at his nickel snaps/ratings
Posted by Aech2019
Youngsville
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:33 am to
WHAT THE frick MICKEY!?!?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:34 am to
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Now hold on, it’s $7mm after that and then $18mm in year 3, which is certifiably insane.


Don’t let those facts get in the way of his melt. Come on man.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33900 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:34 am to
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Exactly. He'd get a 4th at worst as a comp pick b/c he's going to sign a huge extension. We'd likely get a 3rd.




Did you not read that was their plan. Once he stopped participating and taking coaching they saw the writing on the wall.

I hate it but in this case it's better to get him out now.

They got maye and mathieu on the cheap. Williams got top dollar.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:34 am to
Lesson: Don’t frick Mike’s girl
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22024 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:34 am to
We restructured Taysom at least twice so that’s why his cap hit is high. You know we do this so why act like it’s so egregious? We got value for the restructures and he kept us in the playoff hunt last year.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:34 am to
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Now hold on, it’s $7mm after that and then $18mm in year 3, which is certifiably insane.

He's probably going to be the best centerfield safety in the NFL either this year or next. That's safety money, now.

I mean look at what we're paying 2nd/3rd rate safeties like Maye and TM7. Williams + young guy costs less and is a better combo.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13854 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:35 am to
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Malcom Jenkins is taking up almost $4M of our 2022 cap


Never liked the Jenkins signing. I knew that would cost us Williams. I’m still mad we lost him. He’s been relatively injury free and a homegrown talent. You don’t lose those type players.

The Hill contract more than covered the difference between Honey Badger and Williams.

Williams and Maye should be the starting safeties right now.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15784 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:35 am to
This stinks, but between the wanting big money and not taking to coaching kind of forced his way out.

He made his name as a nickel in the league though, will be interesting to see how his career progresses, or is he the defensive version of Jimmy Graham.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10538 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:35 am to
Wouldn’t we have gotten a compensatory pick when he walked next year anyway?? Sucks
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51022 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:36 am to
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I mean look at what we're paying 2nd/3rd rate safeties like Maye and TM7. Williams + young guy costs less and is a better combo.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466294 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:36 am to
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We restructured Taysom at least twice so that’s why his cap hit is high.

Hence why I said people defended both of his insane deals

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You know we do this so why act like it’s so egregious?

It was always bad and it's only gotten worse.

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We got value for the restructures and he kept us in the playoff hunt last year.

Oh shite what is this worth? A lesser draft pick?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466294 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:37 am to
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They got maye and mathieu on the cheap.

No. They didn't pay top dollar, but the 2 weren't cheap by any means.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78769 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:37 am to
I think you’re discounting Maye and Mathieu

We won’t ask them to be Marcus Williams, the defense will change. We have 3 extremely versatile safeties(Maye, Mathieu, PJ Williams), I’m good with that.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22024 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:37 am to
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shite what is this worth? A lesser draft pick?

Would you have preferred to tank the season?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162117 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:38 am to
I liked marcus williams more than some that never forgave him for the Vikings game.....BUT I will say to me he's never been that elite ballhawk type/game changer safety that warrants the huge money
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile, AL.
Member since May 2008
35452 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:38 am to
sounds like Justin Evans could be more in-the-mix this season?

Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29569 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:39 am to
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hope the return is respectable.

CGJ is solid player, but he wasn't dominant by any means.


I mean this is mostly true. We liked him so much because of the fire and energy he brought to the defense. That said, he wasn't a good enough player to commit a massive contract to. Perhaps he proves us all wrong with the Eagles, but I'm don't think he will.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37148 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:39 am to
Marcus Williams is a douche. I still find it hard to believe that was just a bad play on his part. Way too egregious
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
20339 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:39 am to
Ok yea awful compensation tf
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