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re: Saints re-sign Juwan Johnson
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:03 pm to Chalkywhite84
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:03 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:Over $21 million in guarantees. Laughable.
quote:
10 mil a year for Juwan Johnson????
It's probably much less in guarantees.
I actually like juwan Johnson when he is healthy.
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:03 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
do you ever shut the frick up about things that are proven you continually don't fricking understand at all. you think you always understand our cap limitations then continue to get your arse dragged up and done poydras. its embarrassing. shut the frick up. you aren't the cap wizard. you are just continually pissed that the saints actually have plans and the ability to both remain competitive, fix the cap situations and move forward.
Never. If you point out facts it will be ignored.
Rams tight ends (just two) last season:
Colby Parkinson $22,500,000 $7,500,000
Tyler Higbee $17,000,000 $8,500,000
Parkison had 30 catches for 294. Higbee had 8 for 66 lol.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:04 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
because on paper this is baffling
again its not.
juwan was one of the highest rated free agent tight ends available.
keeping him keeps continuity as well as helps our cap situation.
juwan is a pretty good receiving tight end that has both dealt with injuries as well as inept offenses sabotaged by coordinators flipping flopping and injuries to both qb's and o line and to any capapble wr's on the edge at times.
he got paid exactly what he was supposed to.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:05 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
do you ever shut the frick up about things that are proven you continually don't fricking understand at all
Whats funny is how this board is ten years behind on the market rates for players by their positions.
Some numb nuts was freaking out about a guard getting an 80 million dollar contract today.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:06 pm to Chad504boy
quote:In an extremely weak FA class with an upcoming draft that is very deep at the position. Not the year to overpay a 29 year old TE who has never performed.
juwan was one of the highest rated free agent tight ends available.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:07 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:
mean did you see some of the contracts for tight ends this yr. Guys you've never heard of have gotten 7 mil.
Josh Oliver is an elite (possibly #1) blocking TE. He's a 1-way guy too, but is dominant in that area. Johnson is a 1-way guy and mediocre in that area.
I believe Parkinson is in the same boat as Oliver
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:07 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
In an extremely weak FA class with an upcoming draft that is very deep at the position. Not the year to overpay a 29 year old TE who has never performed.
we will absolutely still draft a TE. it ain't either or.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:07 pm to Fun Bunch
He does look cool in this pic at least 
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:08 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
keeping him keeps continuity as well as helps our cap situation.
It doesn't help our cap situation. It just moves the hit down the road to a future year.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:08 pm to P bean
Johnson is anti clutch. Would rather have just drafted someone and signed a bargain bin replacement
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:08 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
juwan was one of the highest rated free agent tight ends available.
Fact.
And this is telling that we probably arent planning on going for a tight end at number 9.
JJ is likely better than what we can get in this draft past the first round also. Not that we may or may not still draft a tight end to develop etc.
quote:
Johnson is anti clutch. Would rather have just drafted someone and signed a bargain bin replacement
Naw, bad idea.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:09 pm to P bean
quote:
Naw its not. See above re: his market rate.
I wanted the Saints to resign JJ.
Dalton Schultz is making 12 million per year.
Total/year:
Pat Freiermuth $48,400,000; $12,100,000
Dalton Schultz $36,000,000; $12,000,000
Noah Fant $21,000,000; $10,500,000
Cry all you want. Karens gotta Karen.
Edited:
Colby Parkinson $22,500,000 $7,500,000
Tyler Higbee $17,000,000 $8,500,000
Parkison had 30 catches for 294
Higbee had 8 for 66 lol.
Both on the Rams.
This board is fricking stuck in 2015 I swear.
Decent points but...
This board has been proven right about the need to blow shite up and pay the piper. This is just more of the same Loomis strategy that will lead us to 7-10 or worse for the next 3 seasons. We'd prefer to be 3-14, 7-10, then 11-6 with a reloaded young team. Loomis has had us in purgatory (with a clear downward trend) forever now. 4 years is an eternity in the NFL.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:09 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
we will absolutely still draft a TE. it ain't either or.
We have more than $30M in cap impact at TE already and you think we should add more to it?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
It just moves the hit down the road to a future year.
this is petulant sky skreaming theater folks from someone who actually gives no fricks about the saints.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Nobody said it was. I said that teams would not overpay an average or below average TE when they can get a better value in a deep draft class.
we will absolutely still draft a TE. it ain't either or.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to SirWinston
quote:
Loomis strategy that will lead us to 7-10 or worse for the next 3 seasons
P bean and Chad have never explained why they are so excited to be a 9-win team at best and 2nd in the division.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
this is petulant sky skreaming theater folks from someone who actually gives no fricks about the saints.
Have you gone mental?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
we will absolutely still draft a TE. it ain't either or.
Would be a pretty weird move to draft a TE high with the guys we have on the roster and what they are making.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Even if an elite blocker, no one is going to pay a TE 20+ mil unless they think he can also put up some numbers AT LEAST on Johnson's level.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
He simply has not performed
It’s really not that he’s a horrible player. I wish he would get on the field more but he’s actually decent for an UFA but why give him 3yr $30 million???
you offer JJ $6M/year and if he’s not happy you let him walk. The most balls he’s ever caught in a year was 50. We can find another UFA tomorrow
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