re: Saints ranked #1 team at drafting since 2006.

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2021: #26 draft class - 52% below expected (none)
2022: #28 draft class - 49% below expected (Chris Olave #14)
2023: #30 draft class - 86% below expected (none)
2024: #20 draft class - (none)

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this is going to trigger a lot of folks around here

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So we are suppose to be excited about this stretch, because of great drafts in the past? 2006 is one of the best drafts in franchise history, by 2021 those guys we’re retired.

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You might want to check the 2021-2024 stretch (25,28,30, 20) again. Also note that shitty drafts coincides with Payton leaving

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Payton was here for the 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 drafts. Awful. Those depleted the team plus the covid cap restrictions limited our ability in FA

Maybe the coaches are a much bigger part of the draft process than the GM?

Drafts under Sean Payton:


Drafts under Dennis Allen:


Drafts under Kellen Moore:

Riiight

This list is crap, they have Penning graded as a C and Bresee as a D. Penning during his time with the Saints just didn’t work out at all.

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Yes it does invalidate the criticism

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The Saints were bad and trending down from 2021-25, sorry great drafts in 2006 and 2017 do not invalidate that. The compounded a tough cap situation with idiotic signings like Carr.

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You have like 10+ franchises that have done nothing for 10+ years with even better draft picks. If we were behind NYJ, LVR, ARI, MIA, CLE, TEN then sure. If we were the worst/ least promising team in our division then sure.

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The goal is to win not say at least we were better than the Jets Raiders and Browns

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I don't care if we made a few stupid decisions, teams do that every year.

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This is classic strawmaning. No one bats 1.000 at anything. It’s not just a bad decision here or there. 21-25 was a waste due to bad decisions compounded on other bad decisions. It was a waste. If they found the right coach QB and are moving in the right direction that’s obvious what we all want but no amount of lip stick will cover the pig that we’ve seen for 4-5 years while Ra-rahs were making excuses

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2020: #10 draft class - 8% above expected (Zack Baun #15)

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The number #10 overall draft class and Ruiz was the prize of that class? Lol. Baun had almost no impact on our team before he left.

Hard to take this list seriously when Ruiz headlines a top ten draft…

It really wasn't a deep class at all...

ARI: 58 av, 6 picks = 9.6 av/pick
ATL: 81 av, 6 picks = 13.5
BAL: 218 av, 10 picks = 21.8
BUF: 96 av, 7 picks = 13.7
CAR: 109 av, 7 picks = 15.5
CHI: 110 av, 7 picks = 15.7
CIN: 171 av, 7 picks = 24.4
CLE: 112 av, 7 picks = 16
DAL: 150 av, 7 picks = 21.4
DEN: 93 av, 10 picks = 9.3
DET: 106 av, 9 picks = 11.7
GNB: 118 av, 9 picks = 13.11
HOU: 53 av, 5 picks = 10.6
IND: 149 av, 9 picks = 16.5
JAX: 83 av, 12 picks = 6.9
KAN: 99 av, 6 picks = 16.5
LAC: 102 av, 6 picks = 17
LAR: 65 av, 9 picks = 7.2
LVR: 63 av, 7 picks = 9
MIA: 169 av, 11 picks = 15.36
MIN: 213 av, 15 picks = 14.2
NOR: 79 av, 4 picks = 19.75
NWE: 100 av, 10 picks = 10
NYG: 117 av, 10 picks = 11.7
NYJ: 67 av, 9 picks = 7.4
PHI: 142 av, 10 picks = 14.2
PIT: 89 av, 6 picks = 14.8
SEA: 116 av, 8 picks = 14.5
SFO: 111 av, 5 picks = 22.2
TAM: 124 av, 7 picks = 17.7
TEN: 30 av, 6 picks = 5
WAS: 120 av, 8 picks = 15

Top 10 in terms of AV/pick:
Cincinnati = 24.4
San Francisco = 22.2
Baltimore = 21.8
Dallas = 21.4
New Orleans = 19.75
Tampa Bay = 17.7
Los Angeles Chargers = 17
Kansas City = 16.5
Indianpolis = 16.5
Cleveland = 16

Now, I think we'd trade for Tampa's draft in an absolute heartbeat getting 2 all-pro players in their first 2 and Baun does A LOT of heavy lifting...but we drafted him and these are based on the teams that drafted the players. I don't know exactly how they calculate value based on projected pick or whatever.