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re: Saints have made $30 million in cap space available...

Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:09 pm to
Cap Roll Over

On the how much can be carried question, the answer is definitely all of the unused. If the 9ers carrying over 50+ mil this year doesn't convince people of that, not sure what will.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Loomis prepared to spend 80 million now
80? No. But around another 15 mil or so of the roughly 25 mil we have once the moves are processed? Maybe.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15791 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:24 pm to
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So now we have to ask ourselves...why? What are they doing?


They probably ask themselves that as well
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10420 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:53 pm to
We also still have space next year. Guess we're out of cap hell
Posted by Whodat1
Madisonville, LA
Member since Feb 2007
504 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:54 pm to
how many of the 55 active roster and practice squad are signed?
could just mean that's what is left to fill the roster.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73968 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10420 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

how many of the 55 active roster and practice squad are signed?
could just mean that's what is left to fill the roster.


69 currently on the roster. Only the top 51 count towards the cap. We will of course add draft picks who will count more than the bottom few guys of the 51, estimated somewhere between $7-10M of additional cost
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
2160 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:48 pm to
I think we'd do better spending every pick in the trenches and get the QB after the oline is in place. A rookie QB with a bad oline could be a career killer
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74425 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:56 pm to
Just ask bear fans
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21950 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:38 pm to
Kicking the can down the road
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62151 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:54 pm to
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So now we have to ask ourselves...why? What are they doing? They can roll over a large portion to next year but not all of it. So what's the deal?


They have to sign the draft class. That's probably 10-12M (guestimate)
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62151 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:59 pm to
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If my understanding is correct carr can come off post June 1 next year and save a massive chunk of money. So the war chest isn’t near as bleak as has been reported on this board.



Instead of it costing you 60M to cut him, it would cost you about 20 after June 1...but the other 40M would be due the following year.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:51 pm to
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They have to sign the draft class. That's probably 10-12M (guestimate)
5.5 mil effective cap if we stay still and keep all the picks.

Taysom cut post June 1st also gives us another 10 mil.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27382 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:40 pm to
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Now do how much dead money is already on the 2028 books lol.
I think you have a typo here. I think you meant to say 2038*
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5544 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:14 pm to
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I'm mildly impressed but so confused about what they're doing.


Nothing confusing that $30M is borrowed from future years and guarantees payment for players who may or more likely not deserving in future years.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

We’re about to have a cap off
Reid still isn't on the books (nor a few others but they will barely take up any cap), but Young is on the Cap for less than I thought (basically gave him the minimum base they could, added to his old and new signing bonuses), but Underhill might be correct after all.

Mathieu's cap hit also lowered more than I thought it would (but may have missed if it was said how much it would lower).

Currently 32.5 mil under and I'm guessing Reid's base plus bonus will take 2.5 mil, and the others not on the cap will take up negligible amounts (barely replacing the bottom of the top 51).

Edit:
On the "bad news" side, we are now over the cap for next year already, which was expected once Young and Reid started to be figured in, but looking ahead at adjustments we can still easily get 50 mil or more under.

Reid and future big signings not counting, but we can be 73 mil under the cap with only 7 restructures next year.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted by IronJohn
Member since Jun 2023
272 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:27 pm to
I hear ya, and I agree that the oline is where we need to build, but I don’t imagine us drafting this high next year. So do we jump for a QB now?
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2315 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:34 pm to
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This is very strange indeed. There are no high dollar FA's left on the market.
Doesn't have to be a FA, maybe we trade for a player who needs to get paid.

Speaking of, what can we get for a middling QB with a super cheap contract?
Posted by GeauxTigers1983
Ponchatoula
Member since Sep 2015
678 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:43 pm to
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mildly impressed but so confused about what they're doing.


Kicking the can down the road again. We will continue to be in salary cap hell every year as long as Loomis is in charge
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:00 am to
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salary cap hell
Dann, being able to be 80 mil under the cap next year surely is hell.
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