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re: Saints Fans taking legal action against Goodell

Posted on 10/17/12 at 10:42 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 10:42 am to
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But what does that have to do with the FANS of a game suing Goodell?


I don't care about this lawsuit at all. You've made the exact same argument in terms of the players suing the nfl
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:08 am to
Just playing white devils advocate......

Isn't the argument kinda like going to the movies and paying upfront for a 3D movie, then getting in the theater and being told you were only getting to see the 2D version and you weren't getting a refund?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:12 am to
Good point.

I mean I wouldn't be someone who's going to join in on the suit, but I'll sure as hell support people trying to stick it to Goodell.
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:16 am to
I wouldn't either, but I don't think the argument that you paid for a product and are receiving a lesser product is unreasonable only, and I repeat ONLY, if you can prove there was malicious intent.

Edit: If they were going to do this, I'd of probably waited til after the results of Vilma's defamation suit. If herr Commish loses, then you have at least shaky ground to stand on to prove the whole malicious intent argument.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 11:18 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:18 am to
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Isn't the argument kinda like going to the movies and paying upfront for a 3D movie, then getting in the theater and being told you were only getting to see the 2D version and you weren't getting a refund?




THE SEASON ISNT frickING OVER. People are upset we are 1-4. So am I. I get it. But you want a refund and then extra money on top of that b/c your upset about how the season started. Sell someone else your season tickets and GTFO. There are still plenty of people, myself included, happy to to go the Dome on Sundays and cheer our boys on and watch Brees break records, and watch some guys on the D develop, and watch us win. Vitt comes back soon, the D is improving, Brees is still our QB. Yes this season isnt what we hoped, but I'm so tired of everyone crying so much.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:20 am to
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Edit: If they were going to do this, I'd of probably waited til after the results of Vilma's defamation suit. If herr Commish loses, then you have at least shaky ground to stand on to prove the whole malicious intent argument.


Also agree with this. It basically hinges on that. I think their suit also depends on the outcome of the season. Although I'm not going to hope for losses considering we're not even halfway done with the season, so in reality I hope the suit doesn't do well
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 11:21 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:22 am to
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Breesus

Whoa! Gooosfrabbba.....

I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just trying to reason what they are thinking in some sort of logical idea.
And I agree with you the timing is all wrong. If we go 1-15, then make the suit. Also, see my second post and waiting at least until Vilmas suit is heard.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 11:23 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 11:29 am to
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Whoa! Gooosfrabbba.....


I wasn't really replying to you, just kind of in general.

quote:

If we go 1-15, then make the suit.


I don't think there is a reason to file this suit from a fans point of view. Ever. Players? yes. Coaches? yes. Even owners? maybe... maybe.

But fans just dont have any ground here. You cant sue someone b/c you dont like them.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 11:30 am
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:00 pm to
@Pendulum @BrotherEsau

Fair enough
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 1:15 pm to
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You cant sue someone b/c you dont like them.


So we can't sue Goodell for being an a-hole?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:04 pm to
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@Pendulum @BrotherEsau

Fair enough




I have no idea what this means, or how this applies to me.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:05 pm to
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So we can't sue Goodell for being an a-hole?


nope. sorry.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:28 pm to
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Actually, I have yet to see one legitimate argument for damages.


You could make plenty of legitimate arguments. The issue is proving them. That would cost any trial attorney hundreds of thousands of dollars and who knows if it'll even be conclusive. And that's assuming that a court would even care about the statistics in light of the public policy issues.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:31 pm to
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You could make plenty of legitimate arguments.

Make one. I'll wait.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:33 pm to
Seriously? Aren't you in law school? Have you not realized that a legitimate argument can be made for just about everything?

I seriously doubt a trial lawyer would be forking up the money in this class action if there isn't a decent argument (and/or chance they may settle).
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31312 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:36 pm to
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Make one. I'll wait.

Since when has that stopped anybody from suing?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Aren't you in law school?

Yes
quote:

Have you not realized that a legitimate argument can be made for just about everything?

No. An argument, yes. A legitimate one from the fans point of view in this situation? I literally cannot find one. Frivolous lawsuits are frickin dumb and why people hate lawyers.
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I seriously doubt a trial lawyer would be forking up the money in this class action if there isn't a decent argument

You dont know lawyers very well do you
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:42 pm to
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Since when has that stopped anybody from suing?


It hasnt. I hate Goodell with a passion. I have been a saints fan for my life, and i am upset about the season, but i would love nothing more than the opportunity to sit across a table from this lawyer and tear him apart.

I'm waiting on that legitimate argument.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45123 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:46 pm to
You jacking off while reading this thread? You seem to have some sort of weird obsession with it.

Link me to the claims and I'll point them out to you. But then again, you could just read them yourself.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31312 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 3:24 pm to
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I'm waiting on that legitimate argument.


Oh I dont have one, and I think the entire idea is dumb. But I was just pointing out that plenty of people sue for illegitimate things all day every day.
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