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re: Saints expected to restructure Carr
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:36 am to paulbeasy
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:36 am to paulbeasy
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And Jaguars and Seahawks went 9-8 last year, how did they do?
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Steelers made the playoffs you Goddamn IDIOT. LOL. Wow.
I think you're a random word generator AI bot programmed for ultimate emotional and nonsensical takes, at this point.
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's all about Brees and, namely, the post-Brees era.
Incorrect.
Its been centered on the Saints F Office and trusting decisions, kicking the can blah blah blah.
2007 - 7-9
2008 - 8-8
What happened in 2009 pussy?
2014 - 7-9
2015 - 7-9
2016 - 7-9
What happened in 2017 etc pussy?
The saints DID not blow it up and we are thankful they didnt.
Now shut the frick up.
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And Jaguars and Seahawks went 9-8 last year, how did they do?
No simply misread. But both of these teams BARELY missed the playoffs. Pete is in Bill territory agewise. Jags did NOT fire their guy.
Now shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:42 am to paulbeasy
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Its been centered on the Saints F Office and trusting decisions, kicking the can blah blah blah.
We didn't even start kicking the can until the end of the Brees era
So, by your own definition, the discussion at hand (the post-Brees era) is only extended by maybe 2 years. So now we're talking a 5-year sample.
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2007 - 7-9
2008 - 8-8
What happened in 2009 pussy?
2014 - 7-9
2015 - 7-9
2016 - 7-9
...and you continue to bring up irrelevant things
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:42 am to paulbeasy
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Steelers made the playoffs you Goddamn IDIOT. LOL. Wow.
Good for them what about the Jaguars and Seahawks?
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:12 am to paulbeasy
Paul I’m not sure you’ll be getting an invite to the ice cream social if you keep telling everyone to shut the frick up and calling them pussies
Posted on 2/4/24 at 11:57 am to Sauce Castieaux
Who are the qb’s available to replace Carr? I’m not so sure it’s smart to rely on the draft.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:50 pm to VOR
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Who are the qb’s available to replace Carr? I’m not so sure it’s smart to rely on the draft.
We have had a host of QBs who produced similar results for less money.
Jameis, Simien, Dalton, and hell, even Hill.
I'd rather Hill earn his money and play QB and lead us to a mediocre record for a few years than pay Carr top dollar to do the same and destroy our cap and future.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
this mythical “future” you have built up in your head is hilarious. There is no realistic future without Carr, it would only be unlimited cap space and 4 win seasons for at least a decade. Maybe we’d get lucky and hit on a QB, but that’s no guarantee.
Carr isn’t that far off the stats of a top tier guy—he’s the one that can be middle of the road, pay some other key positions and make a run while we can
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:20 pm to Proximo
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Carr isn’t that far off the stats of a top tier guy—he’s the one that can be middle of the road, pay some other key positions and make a run while we can
This is exactly what the Raiders thought. So they added one of the league’s best wr(Adams), rb(Jacobs), TE(Waller) and DE(Crosby). Ask the Raiders how their run was with Carr?
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:27 pm to Proximo
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There is no realistic future with Carr
I've seen enough of Carr to believe in a future with no playoff wins. I would not keep him past next year but Loomis stretching out his guaranteed past 2025 looks likely. I certainly hope he proves me wrong as a Saints fan.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We have had a host of QBs who produced similar results for less money. Jameis, Simien, Dalton, and hell, even Hill.
We have a complete moron ladies and gentlemen. Loomis was a fool not to stick with these guys right?
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:56 pm to Proximo
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Maybe we’d get lucky and hit on a QB, but that’s no guarantee. Carr isn’t that far off the stats of a top tier guy—he’s the one that can be middle of the road, pay some other key positions and make a run while we can
Correct take, especially on a team friendly restructured deal. I mean we literally do it with all our players and did it with Brees for years. 35 mill per year is not 55 mill per year. We will see what the restructure looks like etc.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:10 pm to paulbeasy
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Loomis was a fool not to stick with these guys right?
Tell me the difference in playoff games among each of them.
Hint: 0 for all of them.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:11 pm to Sauce Castieaux
Derek Carr has a passer rating of 69.2 with 310 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception in 1 game in the playoffs in his career.
He has never won a playoff game. He will be 33 in March.
He has never won a playoff game. He will be 33 in March.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:15 pm to Proximo
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There is no realistic future without Carr, it would only be unlimited cap space and 4 win seasons for at least a decade.
Are you seriously arguing that the only thing between multiple years of awful teams is Derek Carr?
If true why weren’t the Saints a 4 win team in 21 and 22? It does not take a decade to rebuild and it’s not necessary to completely tank the roster.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:17 pm to paulbeasy
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especially on a team friendly restructured deal.
Explain how it's "team friendly" using numbers.
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35 mill per year is not 55 mill per year.
Pushing money to later years makes him a $55M+ QB in those years
Right now, pre-restructure these are his cap hits:
2025: $45.7M
2026: $55.7M
If we restructure to lower his 2024 cap, unless he takes a pay cut (which he's not), that makes both of those numbers bigger
2025 cap hits for Mahomes and Burrow
PM: $60.8M
JB: $46.25M
2026?
PM: $63.2M
JB: $48.5M
It's not going to require kicking his entire salary to exceed Mahomes' cap number
He's basically guaranteed to cost more than Burrow.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
We aren’t drafting top 5 with Carr, it’s a fact of life. No reasonable alternative is magically showing up on our doorstep
How many years do teams go through to find a QB? Are you seriously arguing teams don’t go 5, 10 years before finding a legitimate starter?
We already have one
How many years do teams go through to find a QB? Are you seriously arguing teams don’t go 5, 10 years before finding a legitimate starter?
We already have one
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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It does not take a decade to rebuild and it’s not necessary to completely tank the roster.
Exactly
We'd be out of cap hell with similar results had we started to take our medicine starting when Brees retired.
We wouldn't have certain guys (Hill, Cam, Maye, Mathieu, Thomas, etc.), but we would have almost almost all of the guys making an impact still on the roster.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Tell me the difference in playoff games among each of them. Hint: 0 for all of them.
The dumbest fricking logic of alltime. Youre dumb and I pussy it appears. Yeah, every GM in the NFL considers those players equals. Shut the frick up moron, Trevor Siemien?? Classic.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:22 pm to Proximo
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How many years do teams go through to find a QB?
You mean a great QB? Those are rare and take time
Mediocre QBs are available almost every year. That's how we got Carr in the first place
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