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re: Saints and Eagles talking trade

Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:42 am to
the idea of acquiring Kelce cause we may need a 3-4 game center stop gap is retarded. We have capable short term players.

on that same note, a team wants to throw us a 2nd round pick next year for Ingram... i'll chew on that..
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:46 am to
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Holy shite dude. Special one aren't you.


Are you calling me retarded?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
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89498 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:57 pm to
Why would the Saints trade Mark Ingram?
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22720 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:01 pm to
Retarded is a very bad word. Inappropriate even.


fricking stupid is more like it.
Posted by TigerDean
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
1342 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:47 am to
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Why would the Saints trade Mark Ingram?


He's expendable ? We need help on Defense ? We need a WR ? We need a OL/C ?

Why wouldn't they ??
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 2:49 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:34 am to
Why is he expendable? If you think a 32 year old aging RB and a rookie RB make Mark Ingram expendable, you aren't thinking clearly.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:47 am to
Only extreme value in return makes Ingram expendable and that sure as hell doesn't mean a center in return
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17175 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 8:01 am to
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Only extreme value in return makes Ingram expendable and that sure as hell doesn't mean a center in return



Hate to agree with Chad, but...


I'm also pretty excited for an AP/Ingram/Kamara backfield.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5031 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 8:07 am to
Yea, no.

You realize that people that say we need a WR are essentially worried about our 3rd WR right? We don't "need" a WR. Ginn is capable enough to be that threat. You certainly don't trade your starting RB for a 3rd/4th WR.

It was not all that long ago we were starting the likes of Julius Jones and Deshawn Wynn in a playoff game. So don't tell me a guy like Mark Ingram is expendable. A 32 year old is not going to make it through the season in 1 piece as our starter.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 8:09 am
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 8:53 am to
I think anybody saying that Ingram is expendable is showing that they aren't a Saints fan, but rather an LSU fan that hates Ingram because of where he went to college. That's what I'm assuming, at least.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22529 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:16 am to
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He's expendable ?

You really think a 32 year old RB who missed all of last year and an unproven rookie RB are enough? Ingram is the only proven RB on our roster considering AD might be washed up for all anyone knows.
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We need a WR ?
No we don't. Why didn't we draft one then?
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We need a OL/C ?
Not anymore.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8381 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:48 pm to
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You really think a 32 year old RB who missed all of last year and an unproven rookie RB are enough? Ingram is the only proven RB on our roster considering AD might be washed up for all anyone knows.


THIS

If you don't get this, I invite you to go back and re-watch Saints V 49ers in the playoffs.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1623 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 8:46 pm to
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I think anybody saying that Ingram is expendable is showing that they aren't a Saints fan, but rather an LSU fan that hates Ingram because of where he went to college. That's what I'm assuming, at least.


GOON,

Season Ticket Holder since mid 2000's

Get real, Ingram doesn't impressive me. You must have invested in one of his jersey or you're just a alabama fan, I personnally can care less where he went to school. I care about Production on the field.



Looking forward to all you Ingram fans blowing up this board when that slug shows his lack of production next year. And yes AP has a lot more in the tank then many believe, And he's such a better RB than mark ingram.

This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5031 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:35 am to
Its pretty shitty how posters like you actively go out of your way to root against your own players.

What did Mark do to trigger you so badly? Show us on the doll where mark touched you

Get the frick out of here with that "AP is better bullshite" AP is an all time great and it goes without saying he's had a better career. Why does that even matter when they are on the same team? You'd rather guys fail than have the team be successful and that makes you a shitty fan.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 4:41 am
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
7890 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 6:29 am to
We have to keep Ingram. Good chance Peterson doesn't make it the entire season healthy based on recent history. Also a chance Ingram doesn't do the same which is why both work well together. If one goes down for a game or two the other gets flexed carries. Keep them both. Let's have a strength other than Drew Brees on offense for once.

All this team needs is:

Veteran versatile OL that can play both guard spots and center if Unger is not ready.

Veteran receiver to push Coleman.

Veteran DE to begin the season while Kikaha and Rookies develop.


None of these have to be gotten through trade. If we are trading Ingram it better be him and something else for a dynamic player like AJ Green.

Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:13 am to
We actually have a veteran OL that can play LT, LG, and C.

We also brought in a veteran DE to pair with Kikaha and the rookies.

Also don't think you need a vet to push your 4th receiver.

Injuries are a different issue and you can't have backup starters everywhere on the roster just in case. You deal with them as they pop up.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:22 am to
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Why is he expendable? If you think a 32 year old aging RB and a rookie RB make Mark Ingram expendable, you aren't thinking clearly.



We signed a 30 yr old off the street a year ago that was as productive as Ingram. Let's not over value him.
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:36 am to
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Season Ticket Holder since mid 2000's


Awesome. Unless you mean since the 2007 season right after we got our first taste of success. I've been a Saints fan for almost 40 years (my whole life).

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You must have invested in one of his jersey or you're just a alabama fan


Neither.

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Ingram doesn't impressive me


To be fair, I can see why some would say this. He's not the flashy Le'Veon Bell, AP in his prime, etc. type back. I'm not faulting you for having your opinion. What Ingram is, though, is a solid, usually reliable above average starting RB. He's arguably a top 10 back in the league. To want to trade him for a WR and leave ourselves with an unproven and an unknown at RB is just short sighted.


Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1620 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:43 am to
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All this team needs is: Veteran versatile OL that can play both guard spots and center if Unger is not ready. Veteran receiver to push Coleman. Veteran DE to begin the season while Kikaha and Rookies develop. None of these have to be gotten through trade. If we are trading Ingram it better be him and something else for a dynamic player like AJ Green.


The facts are we need more outside pass rush, and we are not as good as we were at Wr last season. The option to plug in a guy like Snead isn't there if Thomas go or if Snead himself goes down. In all honesty, I don't see Snead as a starter on many teams in the league (I am a fan). We are basically lining up with Wr 1 (Thomas) And two Wr 3s (Snead and Ginn). It can work, but our offense has always been more deadly with more than one deep threat (Henderson/Meachem...Stills/Morgan...Cooks/Stills/Morgan etc...). I'm hoping someone emerges on the roster that can open things up similarly to what we had with the guys mentioned above.

Either way we still will field a top 5-10 offense, I just want to have matchup problems for anyone we face.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11706 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:51 am to
You're right 500 yards on the season is the same as 1000 yards on the season.

Ingram had over 100% more yards, while only getting 65% more carries, but keep saying stupid stuff like this to justify the Ingram hatred.
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