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re: regret drafting reggie?

Posted on 4/20/09 at 1:04 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 1:04 am to
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At the time, there is no one in their right mind who would not have taken Reggie Bush, and pretty much anyone who says they wouldn't have is a liar


That's funny since at the time I was saying I didnt want us to draft Reggie.

I guess I'm a liar.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 1:06 am to
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using the #2 pick on a complementary RB and a punt returner is a tough pill to swallow


fricking BINGO!!!

That's what it boils down to. He's gettin paid #2 money to produce. he needs to produce a shite ton MORE on the offensive side of the ball to really be earning that contract.
Posted by AllsGroovn
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2005
1961 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 7:53 am to
No one but Reggie could have energized the city like he did. Mario Williams wouldn't have put the Saints on National TV as much as Reggie did. The Saints & New Orleans wouldn't be on National Commercials, etc without Reggie.

Who's to say that any of those other RBs drafted that year would have made an impact?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57111 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 8:07 am to
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you are contradicting yourself.


no i'm not..you, like many others here are having problems understansding what you don't agree with

the franchise has always survided draft day busts, and yes, there have been times when games were blacked out. i don't know how long ago you lived here but you have to go back to the ditka era to find some that were blacked out

under ditka they ahd alot of games blacked out...until.....wait for it......they drafted ricky williams. it had nothing to do with how bad or good they were

it wasn't always fans buying the tickets to avoid sellouts, agreed. but it was often small businesses stepping up and buying hundreds/thousands at a time so if you are referring to multiple games being blacked out, i believe it was last century

saints fans will go to games when they are excitded and reggie created excitement. more importantly, NOT drafting reggie had horrible possibilities with the franchise so topsy turvy at that point..if they never had the chance to draft him thats ones thing, but to pass on a guy that created more pre draft buzz than any 1st rounder in saints history probably wasn't a smart move

even after the draft the excitement created by drafting erggie can only really be matched by 2 other first rounders, archie & ricky

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57111 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 8:12 am to
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Mario Williams wouldn't have put the Saints on National TV as much as Reggie did. The Saints & New Orleans wouldn't be on National Commercials, etc without Reggie.


they only had 2 primetime games in 06 and the falcons game was gonna be primetime no matter who they drafted, BUT i agree totally about national exposure with commercials and "interest"

although H town thinks "it doesn't matter" and has absolutely zero relevence how often your time is mentioned or showcased in commercials or on sports talk shows or on radio shows etc etc

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57111 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 8:21 am to
to me it is pertty obvious

you've got a franchise that was just wined and dined by a city who wants the team to move there and an owner has previously flirted with tying to move the team there

you have players (joe horn) calling out the fan base of new orleans upon their return to new orleans

you have a new offensive minded coach

you have a city with an unstable and virtually unkown financial budget for "extras" like sporting events and you have the most popular offensve player in the NFL draft in years fall in your lap

your franchise has proven it can withstand draft day busts and plenty losses (meacom publically admitted he could make more money in new orleans because of the fans with a losing team than w winning team) so it made all the sense in the world to take a risk (when all players have a certain degree of risk) with the guy who brought the most off the field benefit to the franchise
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19647 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 9:21 am to
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using the #2 pick on a complementary RB and a punt returner is a tough pill to swallow
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fricking BINGO!!!

That's what it boils down to. He's gettin paid #2 money to produce. he needs to produce a shite ton MORE on the offensive side of the ball to really be earning that contract.



This really sums it up. I would even add that he hasn't learned or refused to learn much about running in the NFL. If we drafted him and called him a WR and PR from the begning I'd have nothing to complain about. Thanks for nothing Reggie Bust(h). He'll get hurt again this year and fans will tire of it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57111 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 9:31 am to
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Thanks for nothing Reggie Bust(h).


why get mad at reggie? he didn't draft himself there


Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19647 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 5:03 pm to
Damn good point. Ok, I don't blame Reggie but I still think he sucks as a RB and is an overpaid douche.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61026 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 5:21 pm to
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although H town thinks "it doesn't matter" and has absolutely zero relevence how often your time is mentioned or showcased in commercials or on sports talk shows or on radio shows etc etc


It doesn't add any revenue to the team, so how does it matter? If your team is WINNING, they will get mentioned, whether you players that are "exciting" or not. The point you keep missing is WINNING is exciting.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61026 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 5:25 pm to
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Mario Williams wouldn't have put the Saints on National TV as much as Reggie did. The Saints & New Orleans wouldn't be on National Commercials, etc without Reggie


The MNF game against Atl was scheduled before the draft, the SNF game against Dallas was a flex game, and BTW, the Texans, Lion and Raiders made the same amount of money off those 2 games as the Saints, because the TV money is shared equally, why is that so hard for you guy's to understand? Reggie Bush being in Subway commercials does not help the Saints.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8500 posts
Posted on 4/20/09 at 8:02 pm to
This is such a goofball debate and it still manages to come up about 5 times a week. The team is clearly committed to the guy and he's not going anywhere anytime soon, so why do we keep arguing about whether or not he should have been drafted? He was. let it go for crissakes.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 4/21/09 at 12:30 am to
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The team is clearly committed to the guy and he's not going anywhere anytime soon


Depends on what your definition of soon is, cause this may be his last year in a Saints uniform if we dont see an improvement running the ball.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57111 posts
Posted on 4/21/09 at 8:09 am to
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It doesn't add any revenue to the team


it most certainly does

not directly, but if you think local, regional and national popularity doesn't turn into more revenue for your team you are out of your mind, OR too blind to understand things you don't agree with.....which is what I orginally said and still believe

quote:

If your team is WINNING, they will get mentioned, whether you players that are "exciting" or not. The point you keep missing is WINNING is exciting.


i never said winning wasn't, BUT you are saying drafting reggie and winning are mututally exclusive

you can win with reggie, and they have

IF you lose with reggie you still have the buzz, the excitement. the saints can withstand not winning, and have proven so since the 60's

to say winning provides the most excitement around the NFL with every franchise is just not correct. the saints are unique in this aspect. there has always been alot of excitement around this team from its fans and rarely was it caused by winning.

not saying drafting reggie caused all the excitement to sellout a season, but NOT drafting reggie could have been more harmful than drafting reggie and going 2-14 for 3 straight years

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