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Payton had been trying to get out since AT LEAST 2017

Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12018 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:24 pm
said it before and Ill say it again....frick him

those who disagree can talk to me when hes got a star on his visor in 2 years

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The Rams interviewed 10 coaches in January 2017. They kept coming back to the 30-year-old Washington offensive coordinator, Sean McVay. Demoff, Pastoors and GM Les Snead all loved McVay, but they were worried that Kroenke, desperate for a long-term fix in Los Angeles, would be more inclined to want a veteran coach. “I wasn’t that hesitant,” Kroenke said Sunday night. The alternative was a trade for Saint coach Sean Payton, who the Rams had heard might be available for significant draft-choice compensation. Kroenke trusted his staff. Go with the kid, he told them.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:34 pm to
Who cares. Payton ain't winning anything anywhere else. He had the most accurate passer in NFL history and wasted his entire career with bullshite drafts and terrible defenses. Every pick and signing was his doing and he had been a bust on majority of them. Payton knew he was in quicksand without a QB and skipped. Wherever he goes he'll be a dud. Because he had a HOF QB and 100% support from ownership and couldn't get it done outside that fluke 09 season.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:34 pm to
I dont think he was looking to get out as much as he was about to be fired.

If my timeframe is right this was before that epic draft. We had just come off 3 7-9 seasons with historically bad defenses. Sean had constantly butchered his defensive hires.

Context matters. You are framing it as him bolting. In reality another bad season he was fired.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29761 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:37 pm to
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I dont think he was looking to get out as much as he was about to be fired.

If my timeframe is right this was before that epic draft. We had just come off 3 7-9 seasons with historically bad defenses. Sean had constantly butchered his defensive hires.

Context matters. You are framing it as him bolting. In reality another bad season he was fired.



Funny how one of the resident board trolls follows me around like a puppy dog for believing a coach who went 7-9 three seasons in a row should have his job evaluated.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:38 pm to
It was absolutely a fair thing to say and im a big Payton homer lol
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12018 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:02 pm to
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I dont think he was looking to get out as much as he was about to be fired.

If my timeframe is right this was before that epic draft. We had just come off 3 7-9 seasons with historically bad defenses. Sean had constantly butchered his defensive hires.

Context matters. You are framing it as him bolting. In reality another bad season he was fired.



Although I didnt consider this, I still dont agree.

Dont see Loomis firing a super bowl winning coach(the teams first and only) for bad drafts (under any circumstance) only to later hire a guy he knows/wants for scouting (Ireland).

He was ready to bolt, the draft and the Ireland hire was an appeasement.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 1:06 pm
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10333 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:06 pm to
Hard to argue with your unlinked and uncited source.

I know it's Florio though, who is spotty and freaking says the Rams "heard" that Payton "might" be available.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12018 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:16 pm to
Why say that if you knew?
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I know it's Florio though, who is spotty and freaking says the Rams "heard" that Payton "might" be available.


the guys column has jumped the shark, but there is no doubt hes wired up.

Look, either all the writers were making shite up about Payton to Cowboys outta thin air, or where there was smoke there was fire.

I was in the "its bullshite" camp until he left, then a more detailed story gets released that it was done save for Anthony Davis. Now we can look back and see that it wasnt BS, he was actively looking for a way out until he just quit.

So, tl;dr - it comes down to whether you think Peter King is knowledgeable and connected in writing about things after the fact, or hes full of shite.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:24 pm to
I mean they almost traded him to Indy.

But also consider this... It was well known at that time that the ownership situation was in flux with the battle with Rita.

You could be right about the bolting part but that may have been more to do with the ownership situation at that moment.

Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
4162 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:25 pm to
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The alternative was a trade for Saint coach Sean Payton, who the Rams had heard might be available for significant draft-choice compensation.

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might be available

Welcome to the world of mights and maybes. All speculation and rumors.
He can step out of the pressure cooker of being an NFL head coach and step into the world of broadcasting for the same money or more, with a lot more free time for his new wife and his children and not near the pressure and if it doesn't work out he can step back into coaching. One or two bad decisions on his part and the team is not as successful everybody would be calling for his head.
Life is too short. How about waiting for him to get a star on his visor before passing judgement.
I have no plans to get CSP's approval on any life decisions I might make.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19628 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:28 pm to
Everyone overlooks Payton's ego and the fact that he is a huge a-hole. We loved him because he was our a-hole, but he is still a huge dick.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16685 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:32 pm to
I'm not mad it him. I just transferred in my company. Old department mad but who cares. Time for a change. Embrace it.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34976 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 2:11 pm to
It's crazy people are still defending payton.

His daughter is in california.

I'm sure that's where the new wife wants to end up.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12018 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 2:19 pm to
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How about waiting for him to get a star on his visor before passing judgement.


dont need to wait for him to land his next coaching gig to determine hes wanted out for the last few years...when it didnt manifest through a trade, he walked.

quote:

I have no plans to get CSP's approval on any life decisions I might make.


nor do the very large majority of posters....congrats on the sanity
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291704 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 2:20 pm to
He was looking at houses this past week while at the SB.

I don’t think being in New Orleans drove him out, but he certainly isn’t going to spend his off years here and obviously wants to live & coach in a bigger market
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 2:25 pm to
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Sean Payton


quote:

frick him


100% agree
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 4:49 pm to
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It's crazy people are still defending payton.



Eh, at this point who really cares.

I choose to remember his time fondly and had a great time watching this team.

Others are salty about it and i kind of get that as well now.

At this point im anxious to see how we fill up our staff and what the offseason plans are. For the first time in 15 years we really have no fricking clue. Kind of exciting lol
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:07 pm to
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the fact that he is a huge a-hole


I don't KNOW Payton but I have met him several times in a semi private setting. The dude was nice and cool to hang around every time I met him. For all the people that say he hates LSU, most meetings were at LSU...
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57363 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:53 pm to
If I’m the saints I want him to get another job just to get the draft capital
Payton doesn’t owe the saints anything anymore
I thank him for a job well done and Payton ought to be thanking the organization for sticking by him during bounty gate
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 10:52 pm to
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said it before and Ill say it again....frick him

those who disagree can talk to me when hes got a star on his visor in 2 years



Wow

Seems like opinions are changing on this board.


I was called every name in the book not long ago


For trying to explain that Spayton was an overrated POS.
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