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Olave is a damn stud
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:02 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:02 am
As much as we are rightfully shitting on Jameis and Pete, I don't think I have seen a cornerback within 5 yards of Olave the last 3 games. He is always open. I hate that we gave up what looks to be a top 10 first rounder for him, but he is going to make trading MT13 this offseason so much easier.
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:05 am to saints5021
He’s so smooth. Unfortunately he’ll always be tied to what we gave up for him but he appears to be the real deal.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:06 am to saints5021
No hes not a stud. Hes solid. Go watch someone like Jaylen Waddle play. Then do a comparison and tell me if you still want to use the word stud.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:09 am to dj30
1st 3 games for both...
Waddle: 22 catches 167 yds 1 td
Olave: 17 catches 268 yards 0 td
Waddle: 22 catches 167 yds 1 td
Olave: 17 catches 268 yards 0 td
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:09 am to dj30
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No hes not a stud. Hes solid. Go watch someone like Jaylen Waddle play. Then do a comparison and tell me if you still want to use the word stud.
Now compare Jaylen Waddle after only his first 3 NFL games....
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:31 am to msstate7
He has more yards through his first 3 games than
Waddle
Justin Jefferson
Chase
Devonta
Ceedee Lamb
Prob more but I stopped there. Olave is 7th in the league in yards and would be 3rd had he not fumbled that bomb vs Tampa
Waddle
Justin Jefferson
Chase
Devonta
Ceedee Lamb
Prob more but I stopped there. Olave is 7th in the league in yards and would be 3rd had he not fumbled that bomb vs Tampa
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:52 am to GynoSandberg
Hes solid. Nothing wrong with that, but a secondary receiver getting the amount and type of targets he gets should have yards. You can put someone random like Darnell Mooney in the same situation and the numbers would be similar.
Hes not explosive enough to justify the draft capital given up to get him.
Hes not explosive enough to justify the draft capital given up to get him.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:00 am to Melvin
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Unfortunately he’ll always be tied to what we gave up for him but he appears to be the real deal.
Especially since it looks like this team is heading to a top 5 pick unless they get whatever is broken fixed.
Guess we can always look at our 2nd rounder as a late 1st 
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:06 am to dj30
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Hes solid. Nothing wrong with that, but a secondary receiver
LOL...a secondary receiver is someone like Jarvis Landry. Hell, prime Mike Thomas is probably the Alpha secondary receiver. Olave has everything you need as a #1, and is playing like a seasoned pro.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:09 am to dj30
Ya and i guess jaylen waddle is only good bc he has Hill and McDaniel now. Solid secondary guy in a nice system. Moody would eat in that role
Idk what “explosive” means? Routinely getting open and getting behind a defense?
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Hes not explosive enough to justify the draft capital given up to get him.
Idk what “explosive” means? Routinely getting open and getting behind a defense?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:09 am to dj30
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Hes solid. Nothing wrong with that, but a secondary receiver getting the amount and type of targets he gets should have yards. You can put someone random like Darnell Mooney in the same situation and the numbers would be similar.
Are you talking about Waddle or Olave? Waddle is 2nd fiddle to Tyreek.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:22 am to saints5021
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LOL...a secondary receiver is someone like Jarvis Landry. Hell, prime Mike Thomas is probably the Alpha secondary receiver. Olave has everything you need as a #1, and is playing like a seasoned pro.
When I say secondary receiver, I am talking about the coverage dedicated to them.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:39 am to GynoSandberg
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Idk what “explosive” means? Routinely getting open and getting behind a defense?
Any receiver with speed will get behind defenses if its schemed correctly. Go look at tapes of bums like Breshard Perriman and Darrius Heyward-Bay. The catches might not be there but they always got behind defenses. Hell Harty consistently gets behind defenses. This isnt something hard to find.
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Ya and i guess jaylen waddle is only good bc he has Hill and McDaniel now. Solid secondary guy in a nice system. Moody would eat in that role
You were the one making comparisons of Olave to the best receivers in the game. My statement was strictly based on you making a yardage comparison of Olave to these guys. Hes getting a #1 receiver target share while getting a secondary receiver coverage assignments. Defenses will adjust. I dont see an elite #1 receiver in him but I could be wrong. Looks like MT might be out so we could see starting next week. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:45 am to Doug_H
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Now compare Jaylen Waddle after only his first 3 NFL games....
You can go back to highschool or college. Show many any tape of Olave doing what Waddle can do with the ball in his hands. Waddle is an unreal talent.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:08 am to dj30
D you might’ve been ok if you were talking to someone who didn’t know any better. Olave just got done cookin Jaycee Horn a week after abusing Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean, to a lesser extent. These are not rotational CBs or safeties bubba
It’s just facts. Those of your ilk will continue to move the goal posts on if Olave was worth the capital. He’s hanging with the best at this point and probably would be leading the league on yards if we had a QB worth a frick
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You were the one making comparisons of Olave to the best receivers in the game.
It’s just facts. Those of your ilk will continue to move the goal posts on if Olave was worth the capital. He’s hanging with the best at this point and probably would be leading the league on yards if we had a QB worth a frick
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:41 am to GynoSandberg
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D you might’ve been ok if you were talking to someone who didn’t know any better. Olave just got done cookin Jaycee Horn a week after abusing Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean, to a lesser extent. These are not rotational CBs or safeties bubba
I cant speak to much on Horn. Havent watched him a lot. Can only go off his PFF grades which were mediocre last year and solid this year.
Davis has trouble with speed. So not surprising Olave had some success there.
I said Olave is solid. My issue was with the use of the word stud. Just looked up Olave pff grade and hes rated much lower in comparison to Drake London and Garret Wilson.
I see average ball skills.
Good hands.
Good speed.
I need to rewatch some things to give an accurate opinion on his route running.
Not explosive with the ball in his hands.
At his his peak I could see a Brandin Cooks career.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:59 am to saints5021
How about a Top 3 pick and franchise QB in the next draft?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:29 pm to dj30
I agree DJ, but the crowd won’t for awhile here due to bias and the cost to acquire him. Everyone desperately wants him to be good and worth the acquisition cost as fans, so many will continue to have blinders on. He is a nice, high character kid (which is why we reached for him), solid number 2 type receiver. I think his peak will definitely be lower than Cooks. Cooks was a lot faster tbh.
People trying to compare him favorably to Waddle, Ja’Marr and Jefferson literally should be hand held, walked to the insane asylum, and checked in immediately.
People trying to compare him favorably to Waddle, Ja’Marr and Jefferson literally should be hand held, walked to the insane asylum, and checked in immediately.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:32 pm to dj30
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but a secondary receiver getting the amount and type of targets he gets should have yards. You can put someone random like Darnell Mooney in the same situation and the numbers would be similar.
Just because he's getting targeted doesn't mean all the passes coming his way are even catchable. Winston hasn't been accurate at all this entire season.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:12 pm to GynoSandberg
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D you might’ve been ok if you were talking to someone who didn’t know any better. Olave just got done cookin Jaycee Horn a week after abusing Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean, to a lesser extent
He was not cooking Horn. The cb he was burning repeatedly was CJ Henderson. Whoever Horn was on he blanketed him.
And Olave could easily have another 100 yards if crab legs hits him on those two deep throws against Tampa. He had his man beat by 5 yards
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 1:16 pm
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