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re: NFLPA report card (player Grades) has Gayle as a top 10 NFL owner

Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:57 am to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:57 am to
Chiefs Bucs and Steelers are interestingly low.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130307 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:58 am to
Cool. Sean left, and Mickey continued to go all in.

This is a results league. And the results have stunk. Its led us to the most untenable cap situation in the entire league, an old, expensive roster, and no playoffs for years.

You can argue whatever nonsense you want but the results speak for themselves.

Mickey and his entire approach is a complete failure.

He needs to change his approach in every aspect, from cap management to the draft to player evaluation.

We will see if he can or will.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130307 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:00 am to
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Chiefs Bucs and Steelers are interestingly low.



Chiefs have notoriously bad ownership for the players. Its amazing they win as much as they do but they have significant issues with many things.

Their lockerroom is considered perhaps the worst in the entire league and reportedly last offseason Hunt said they would get a new one. When the players showed up they got new chairs and nothing else.

They also reportedly don't treat the families very well, among many things
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21753 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:12 am to
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The Saints job was unappealing to a lot of coaches because of Mickey

Any proof of this, or are we just going off of a few tweets from guys that were not front runners for the position?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:16 am to
Who would’ve thought that an owner not being around the building and not meddling in fat contracts to aging players would be popular?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:25 am to
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an owner not being around the building


Again another false narrative
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:41 am to
Chad, it would be best for the FO to acknowledge the epic failure of the last few years, learn from it, and adapt a new game plan going forward. Can’t change what happened but anyone shrewd in business would be acknowledging this and not defending it
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130307 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179040 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:56 am to
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it would be best for the FO to acknowledge the epic failure of the last few years,


Is this a thing? Epic failure of injuries?

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learn from it, and adapt a new game plan going forward.

Well we just hired the youngest coach in the league and is offensive minded. Do actions not mean anything to you?
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76521 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:23 pm to
The heads of business generally don't talk themselves down. Cmon man.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:48 pm to
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You people are insufferable.


Haven’t seen anyone defend Mickey lately. Have an upvote for irrational contrarianism.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:52 pm to
Would expect an owner having the worst cap situation to be graded highly.

Obviously the players have short memories on Oschner’s treatment of them.

The Chiefs at C- in bottom tier tells you all you need to know about how this ranking translates to success.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15076 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Mickey is not nearly the problem he’s made out to be. He went in for trying to help a coach win twice. Big deal. Blame the previous coaches for their failures


100% wrong. You have to have some kind of long term plan as gm. Mickey drafts and makes decisions like the world will blow up and at the end of the football season.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
19293 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:00 pm to
surprised Arthur Blank is that high
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11396 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:17 pm to
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insufferable

Describes Mickey Loomis to a T
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:19 pm to
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this a thing? Epic failure of injuries?


You’re 30-38 the last four seasons in the worst division in the league. Yea, injuries

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Well we just hired the youngest coach in the league and is offensive minded. Do actions not mean anything to you?


Then recommit to Derek Carr and say you’re going to spend in free agency
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179040 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:19 pm to
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You have to have some kind of long term plan as gm.


Mickey has one of the most brilliant long term plans yet you can’t see it.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6589 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:28 pm to
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such flawed bullshite logic. you think payton wanted to spend 2-3 years shitting the bed here and not get every resource possible to win after drew retired? you think the entire post drew brees retiring in 2020 was not collaborative with a 15 year veteran head coach with sean payton in new orleans with mickey?




Imagine a front office going a combined 21-30 over the past 3 seasons with zero playoff appearances and couple that with one of the worst cap situations and oldest rosters, full of restructured contracts we can't get out of. And then imagine arguing that this front office has done a compentent job and calling others dumb for questioning it.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Mickey has one of the most brilliant long term plans yet you can’t see it.


Becoming too big to fail in the eyes of an old gold digging whore and riding that gravy train to retirement?

I have to admit it’s solid.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6589 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Mickey has one of the most brilliant long term plans yet you can’t see it.



Football players are like cars, they depreciate because as they age, they fall apart. Because of your boy Loomis, we are stuck with out of warranty cars that are falling apart, breaking down more often and no longer have the speed and power of the newer models and the answer is to extend the loan even further.


How is it brilliant to pay over market price for a vehicle that'll spend a majority of it's time in the shop and you can't trade it because you're so far upside down on it, it's not even funny?
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