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New TE in 2018?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:10 am
It's good times and things are looking great. In the midst of a win streak Fleener still has not emerged as a playmaker. His reputation was "soft" and he has not disproved that. A go-to TE that cannot thrive with Brees ain't gonna thrive.
Underwhelming 2017
13 catches 151yds 11.6ypc 2 TD
His contract
I don't think you could get anyone to take him at all with $6+ million base salary kicking in. Is $4.8mil next year the total cap hit/cost for 2018?
Underwhelming 2017
13 catches 151yds 11.6ypc 2 TD
His contract
I don't think you could get anyone to take him at all with $6+ million base salary kicking in. Is $4.8mil next year the total cap hit/cost for 2018?
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:18 am to blueslover
I'm the kind of person who believes that where there's smoke, there's fire. If we don't do a trade for Graham, I fully believe we bring him back in the off-season or at least make an attempt to.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:18 am to blueslover
Fleener is what this offense needs to be balanced. He and Hill are playing at a high level, just not being asked to do a ton in the passing game.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:25 am to blueslover
Jimmy Graham is the ONLY tight end drafted since SP has been here.
Fun fact.
I wonder when the last TE not JG was drafted. I bet it's been 15 years.
Fun fact.
I wonder when the last TE not JG was drafted. I bet it's been 15 years.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:27 am to blueboxer1119
Cam Cleeland?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:41 am to saints5021
quote:Mike Dika...
Cam Cleeland?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:53 am to blueboxer1119
quote:
I wonder when the last TE not JG was drafted. I bet it's been 15 years.
You, sir, are correct. 2002 6th Round Pick John Gilmore.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:54 am to blueslover
Cut him Mick. No matter the cost......
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:55 am to whodatfan
Yes please!
Posted on 10/27/17 at 10:55 am to blueboxer1119
quote:
I wonder when the last TE not JG was drafted. I bet it's been 15 years.
John Gilmore - 196th pick in 2002
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:10 am to saints5021
quote:
just not being asked to do a ton in the passing game.
Makes you wonder how much of that has to do with the team intentionally keeping TEs at the line to help with pass blocking since we have a rookie on one side and Armstead was out on the other.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:22 am to blueslover
Fleener doesn't need to get many catches, he just needs to make his blocks and not drop it when it is thrown to him. His salary is high for that, but unless my memory is wrong, he seems to be doing a good job of blocking and not dropping passes this season.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:17 pm to lionward2014
I think he has been asked to do more but hasn't answered- so then the role is reduced.
I know he is a big strider but he looks slow as shite for a more of a receiving type TE too.
I know he is a big strider but he looks slow as shite for a more of a receiving type TE too.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:36 pm to saints5021
quote:
Fleener is what this offense needs to be balanced. He and Hill are playing at a high level, just not being asked to do a ton in the passing game.
He's a better and more reliable receiver than hill, but Fleener and hill split snaps evenly and both block a lot. Maybe asking him to only produce 500-600 a year is smart
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:02 pm to blueslover
While he is doing well in his role, iirc he is last in snaps (or just in front of Hill) for TEs. Hooman is outsnapping both of them.
Next year he will cost $8 mil to keep or $4.8 mil to cut (we save $3.2 mil to cut him).
Not sure you can pay your second or third TE $8 mil. I see us asking him to take a paycut or cutting him if he refuses.
But if he does manage to stick around next year he definitely won't be around in 2019 (unless he has some insane turnaround). We'd save $5.8 mil cutting him that year.
Next year he will cost $8 mil to keep or $4.8 mil to cut (we save $3.2 mil to cut him).
Not sure you can pay your second or third TE $8 mil. I see us asking him to take a paycut or cutting him if he refuses.
But if he does manage to stick around next year he definitely won't be around in 2019 (unless he has some insane turnaround). We'd save $5.8 mil cutting him that year.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:13 pm to bonethug0108
I'm not saying I don't believe this but I thought the deal was pretty much done with guarantees after a couple years. Maybe I had that wrong and it was 3...
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:16 pm to blueslover
Mark Andrews from Oklahoma would be a great pick
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:17 pm to blueboxer1119
Buu Williams was a WR out of FSU but converted nicely into a TE.
Not sure if he counts.
Not sure if he counts.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:27 pm to BigPerm30
He said not JG. He means John Gilmore
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:49 pm to LisbethSalander
He had an $8 mil signing bonus spread over 5 years. While he is cuttable after this year, it isn't without a good dead money hit.
2016- $8 mil
2017- $6.4 mil
2018- $4.8 mil
2019- $3.2 mil
2020- $1.6 mil
2016- $8 mil
2017- $6.4 mil
2018- $4.8 mil
2019- $3.2 mil
2020- $1.6 mil
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