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My biggest issue with this fricking ordeal...
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:55 am
Besides the lack of evidence presented by the commissioner and the lack of relationship/trust he's building with the fans and players union is the fact that from the get go, it's seemed as though Roger Goodell wanted to draw a line in the sand between the difference of a pay to injure program and a pay for performance program.
All kinds of players and coaches have admitted to "pay for performance" programs across the NFL within various clubs and years in the past yet the NFL had zero intentions of ever investigating. Oh, this is about we were told to stop... child please, it's been warned the whole league was warned about this and its still been happening.
Yet there is something more mythical about what the saints were doing because of locker room vocabulary or lingo. I mean, pay for knockouts... that's so different from a "cart off"... i mean paying to fricking sack a qb... that's laying the qb out more often than not and you do it at your up most strongest ability possible. It's called fricking football. Our "conduct" in the locker room did not translate to any more illegal on the field activity than any other club. I don't know what demonstrates intentions more so than their own damn conduct.
And also the NFL has had zero intentions in trying to get the story from all angles. How do you penalize vilma more so because he's a "leader", what the subjective donkey shite is that? And everyone in their momma knows Goodell is wanting to make examples of individuals... i'm sorry, when was that acceptable as fair treatment. It's okay if you unfairly excessively penalize an individual as long as its know you were just wanting to make an example of him.
I'm kind of more fired up about this than ever before because of the strong denials from the players. It's pretty evident that the denials from the players are jumping on the same line in the sand that the NFL differentiated from the get go... Pay for Performance vs Pay for Injury. It's all fricking gray area that Goodell wanted to distinctly differentiate for a very convenient personal motivation that only benefits the NFL as a business, not the NFL the employees.
frick you Roger and Eat a dick.
All kinds of players and coaches have admitted to "pay for performance" programs across the NFL within various clubs and years in the past yet the NFL had zero intentions of ever investigating. Oh, this is about we were told to stop... child please, it's been warned the whole league was warned about this and its still been happening.
Yet there is something more mythical about what the saints were doing because of locker room vocabulary or lingo. I mean, pay for knockouts... that's so different from a "cart off"... i mean paying to fricking sack a qb... that's laying the qb out more often than not and you do it at your up most strongest ability possible. It's called fricking football. Our "conduct" in the locker room did not translate to any more illegal on the field activity than any other club. I don't know what demonstrates intentions more so than their own damn conduct.
And also the NFL has had zero intentions in trying to get the story from all angles. How do you penalize vilma more so because he's a "leader", what the subjective donkey shite is that? And everyone in their momma knows Goodell is wanting to make examples of individuals... i'm sorry, when was that acceptable as fair treatment. It's okay if you unfairly excessively penalize an individual as long as its know you were just wanting to make an example of him.
I'm kind of more fired up about this than ever before because of the strong denials from the players. It's pretty evident that the denials from the players are jumping on the same line in the sand that the NFL differentiated from the get go... Pay for Performance vs Pay for Injury. It's all fricking gray area that Goodell wanted to distinctly differentiate for a very convenient personal motivation that only benefits the NFL as a business, not the NFL the employees.
frick you Roger and Eat a dick.
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:00 am to Chad504boy
Well said.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:04 am to Chad504boy
bitches be trippin
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:10 am to Chad504boy
That's kind of how I feel.
We've seen the recent rule changes, all supposedly in the name of player safety. Goodell could really give two shits about that. You don't scream player safety and then try to get them to play more games per year, and thus exposing them to more trauma and shortening their careers.
This is about trying to position themselves for the coming lawsuits. They have former players suffering from depression, dying early, sometimes from suicide.
We've seen the recent rule changes, all supposedly in the name of player safety. Goodell could really give two shits about that. You don't scream player safety and then try to get them to play more games per year, and thus exposing them to more trauma and shortening their careers.
This is about trying to position themselves for the coming lawsuits. They have former players suffering from depression, dying early, sometimes from suicide.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:11 am to Chad504boy
I couldlnt agree more.
I was listening to that Moron, SCoot on 870 yesterday. He thinks there is proof and thinks we all need to accept this and move on. i think he must need ratings because lord knows he sucks.
I was listening to that Moron, SCoot on 870 yesterday. He thinks there is proof and thinks we all need to accept this and move on. i think he must need ratings because lord knows he sucks.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:11 am to Chad504boy
Feel like I should donate money to that post! Well said! 
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:19 am to Beauw
good stuff chad
Goodell and the NFL remind me of a lot of what I think is going wrong with the world... The bullshite factor in this country is multiplying exponentially. It seems more n more people are concerned with political correctness over common sense and speaking straight forwardly. In every facet of life I see increasing covering your arse mentality pushing direct decisions and actions to the rear.
All of that applies here. It's as if it is all a political bullshite game. Most everyone understands the underlying common sense reality. Yet you wouldn't know it if your knowledge came from the biggest news sources. Few have the courage to stand up and speak their mind. It's more popular to find the hottest sensationalistic hot button. It's easier to toe the line with the other lemmings.
This too shall pass.
Goodell and the NFL remind me of a lot of what I think is going wrong with the world... The bullshite factor in this country is multiplying exponentially. It seems more n more people are concerned with political correctness over common sense and speaking straight forwardly. In every facet of life I see increasing covering your arse mentality pushing direct decisions and actions to the rear.
All of that applies here. It's as if it is all a political bullshite game. Most everyone understands the underlying common sense reality. Yet you wouldn't know it if your knowledge came from the biggest news sources. Few have the courage to stand up and speak their mind. It's more popular to find the hottest sensationalistic hot button. It's easier to toe the line with the other lemmings.
This too shall pass.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:27 am to Chad504boy
Nicely put. RG will need bodyguards upon entrance to New Orleans.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:29 am to blueslover
The only things that might change it are competition, which is non-existent for the NFL, or the owners banning together and realizing that Goodell's watered-down concept of football is going to cost them money.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:29 am to Shalimar Sid
Well said I agree with everything... I assume cause way to early to read all that
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:30 am to blueslover
A lot are also missing the fact that for the "bounty" plan to work it would have to be a CLEAN hit!...If they played dirty, and hit in an illegal way and someone was carted off, the fine and suspension would be WAY more than the benefit to the team or amount of the "bounty".
The little bitchmade kicker from the people in Minnesota(frick saying their team's name), was saying how Troutmouf goodell(his name deserves no capitalization) would not have suspended anyone without proof, and that the reason he won't show proof is because it might be more than people want to see or hear...I mean really? How frickin clueless and stupid can this dude, and others who are taking the commissioner at his word be?
Just show some kind of evidence roger robot, or back the frick off.
The little bitchmade kicker from the people in Minnesota(frick saying their team's name), was saying how Troutmouf goodell(his name deserves no capitalization) would not have suspended anyone without proof, and that the reason he won't show proof is because it might be more than people want to see or hear...I mean really? How frickin clueless and stupid can this dude, and others who are taking the commissioner at his word be?
Just show some kind of evidence roger robot, or back the frick off.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:32 am to Chad504boy
nice chad.
also. why is it so hard for other fans and media outlets to understand this same realization?
also. why is it so hard for other fans and media outlets to understand this same realization?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:32 am to Chad504boy
I got a new job. Can't post on TD much unless I'm on break and on my phone. I'm not happy about it. I almost TL;DR this post. Glad I didn't.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:33 am to Chad504boy
I agree. This has more to do with lawsuites and less with player safety.
Today's political correctness and knee-jerk reactions to every thing they hear is out of control. People just hear things on the news and want something done asap without even viewing the evidence and weighing out the facts.
Today's political correctness and knee-jerk reactions to every thing they hear is out of control. People just hear things on the news and want something done asap without even viewing the evidence and weighing out the facts.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:42 am to Chad504boy
Goodell's refusal to investigate other teams that Williams has coached and the fact that other players (James Harrison of the Steelers) have publicly stated they are out to hurt other players=NO CREDIBILITY!
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I haven't heard him addressing that? He is just using this as a convenient and easy way out to cover his and the NFL's butt in the upcoming lawsuits over injuries and concussions. He is a scumbag.
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I haven't heard him addressing that? He is just using this as a convenient and easy way out to cover his and the NFL's butt in the upcoming lawsuits over injuries and concussions. He is a scumbag.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:01 am to Chad504boy
tl;dr
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:43 am to Chad504boy
quote:
i'm sorry, when was that acceptable as fair treatment. It's okay if you unfairly excessively penalize an individual as long as its know you were just wanting to make an example of him.
I blame Obama for wanting to "crucify" oil companies/non-Chicago sports franchises to make an example of them just like the Romans did.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:50 am to kclsufan
When I hear fans of other teams trying to give me crap, I just cut them off. Then I tell them laugh now, because when Goodell gets his next cover my arse hot flash, your team may be next.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 10:52 am
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:52 am to EastBankTiger
Posted on 5/3/12 at 11:33 am to liquid rabbit
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the owners banning together and realizing that Goodell's watered-down concept of football is going to cost them money.
This is going to be what it takes to stop all this. The NFL is a money machine and the sports networks are going to bow down the the all mighty NFL and report what the NFL wants reported for fear of losing access. If and when the owners lose revenue from the fans there will be something done about all this. The Pro Bowl is a prime example. People have quit watching and supporting the Pro Bowl because of the play on the field.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 11:36 am
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