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re: Mike Thomas “lowers” his asking to 22mil a year
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:52 pm to CP3forMVP
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:52 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:
You can’t pay a WR 20-22 million a year. I love Mike, but you just can’t do it.
Why cant you?
This isnt 10 years ago where the cap was at like 125 million.
Its not like all these other guys were lighting it up.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:56 pm to Solo Cam
Offer $18.5M a year or let him walk.
I love Mike, but he has been very fortunate to have had one of the greatest QBs of all time throwing to him. Offer him some nice incentives that if he can still put up big numbers with whomever Drew's successor is, he'll still get paid.
I love Mike, but he has been very fortunate to have had one of the greatest QBs of all time throwing to him. Offer him some nice incentives that if he can still put up big numbers with whomever Drew's successor is, he'll still get paid.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:59 pm to Solo Cam
Baw better be careful. Graham thought he was worth a lot and now his career is pretty dead. Graham has never came close to the stats he had as a Saint.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:09 pm to TDcline
Did y’all see MT play since he has been drafted and the fact that even doubled teamed last season he caught like 85% of all he passes thrown to him? You think Julio Jones or OBJ is that much better?
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:43 pm to arseinclarse
Shockey wasn’t just good here. He was good in NY ALSO. there ain’t no stats for his blocks. Andmwe know he could catch.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:48 pm to Solo Cam
this gets into not being worth it for us, pay him super star status and lose 4-5 good solid players we need like they did to sign JG, and then the team sucks after because of it.
or just say thanks but we cant afford that much and let him walk if need be or franchise him to keep him here for drews last year or two then let him go.
do i think drew cant make another nobody into a star, no not at this point in his career, but he sure as hell can take us to a SB with a bunch of very serviceable and capable non top 5 receivers who arent on the same level that MT is
or just say thanks but we cant afford that much and let him walk if need be or franchise him to keep him here for drews last year or two then let him go.
do i think drew cant make another nobody into a star, no not at this point in his career, but he sure as hell can take us to a SB with a bunch of very serviceable and capable non top 5 receivers who arent on the same level that MT is
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:16 pm to Giantkiller
quote:
They oughta bring Brees into the meeting to tell him he'll just make a brand new Michael Thomas next year out of someone.
Yeah because clearly Brees was able to make Smith and Kirkwood stars after Ginn went down. And Nick Toon was so awesome. And Cadet, TLL, AA, Coleman, etc.
Only idiots believe Brees can make any receiver great.
Brees can:
Make a receiver better than he would be most anywhere else.
Brees can't:
Make shite receivers turn into stars.
Thomas would be elite no matter where he went. Brees helps him with ball placement but Thomas straight up manhandles dudes on the regular. He'd put up 1,200 yards pretty much anywhere.
Colston elswhere wouldn't have been a 1,000 yard receiver, but he had the ability to be a 700-800 yard guy most other places.
It's stupid to say Brees MAKES receivers. He ups their play but he definitely doesn't make them, or we would have been flush with tons of them instead of struggling mightily at times.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:31 pm to keakar
quote:
lose 4-5 good solid players we need like they did to sign JG
Who did we lose to sign Graham?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:55 pm to lsufan_26
I love Mike also but I'd rather spend 25 million a year on two really good wrs verse one great one
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:09 pm to fightingtigers98
quote:When’s the last time a WR led a team to a Super Bowl?
This is the dumbest shite imaginable. I’m sure they’ll bring Adrian Arrington back too and he’ll be the next Marques Colston.
Hey, why not bring back Nick Toon while we’re at it.
Larry Fitzgerald was out of his fricking mind in 08 and still couldn’t get it done.
QB money on any WR is a piss poor use of resources. 18 is high but I can stomach it. 20 million a year for a WR is outrageous.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:11 pm to t00f
quote:How’d the giants and the falcons do in the post season?
You think Julio Jones or OBJ is that much better?
I’m not arguing how good mike is. I’m arguing that no WR in the history of football is worth what he’s asking.
The Saints are generously trying to make him the highest paid WR in NFL history and he’s getting greedy.
No WR is worth 20 mil a year. Especially with the young guys we have coming up to sign that are much more important to the long term sustainable success of the saints.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:21 pm to Solo Cam
RBs and wrs are a dime a dozen in today’s nfl. Give me a qb, ol or dL over them all damn day.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:23 pm to Solo Cam
Don’t understand why 1.5-2m difference is some kind of deal breaker.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:25 pm to Solo Cam
I’ll take 100k a year if we’re giving money away.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:39 pm to ezride25
Also:
“The two have already formed one of the league’s most efficient combinations over their three seasons together.
Thomas has the most receptions (321) and fourth-most yards (3,787) through three seasons among any wide receiver in NFL history.
Thomas’ 80.6 receiving yards per game are the fifth-most in NFL history.
Thomas’ 77% catch rate is the highest since Pro Football Reference began tracking targets in 1992 (minimum 100 targets).
Thomas is 6-foot-3 and 212 pounds of muscle. The 78th-percentile SPARQ-x athlete also boasts enough speed (4.57-second 40-yard dash) to run past plenty of corners.
Athletes as big and strong as Thomas that double as a pristine route runners don’t exactly fall off of trees. He remains an unsolved problem for defensive backs around the league.”
LINK
“The two have already formed one of the league’s most efficient combinations over their three seasons together.
Thomas has the most receptions (321) and fourth-most yards (3,787) through three seasons among any wide receiver in NFL history.
Thomas’ 80.6 receiving yards per game are the fifth-most in NFL history.
Thomas’ 77% catch rate is the highest since Pro Football Reference began tracking targets in 1992 (minimum 100 targets).
Thomas is 6-foot-3 and 212 pounds of muscle. The 78th-percentile SPARQ-x athlete also boasts enough speed (4.57-second 40-yard dash) to run past plenty of corners.
Athletes as big and strong as Thomas that double as a pristine route runners don’t exactly fall off of trees. He remains an unsolved problem for defensive backs around the league.”
LINK
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:45 pm to t00f
quote:
Don’t understand why 1.5-2m difference is some kind of deal breaker.
For which side?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:50 pm to NoSaint
At 18m I can stomach it.
20 is definitely stretching me.
“Coming down to 22” as a compromise makes me want to say “let him play out his deal, go sign a John brown, cole Beasley and add even someone else(yes, I know using the bills here) and have 3 decent vets plus some young talent that doesn’t get thrown in over their head if MT rolls an ankle.
20 is definitely stretching me.
“Coming down to 22” as a compromise makes me want to say “let him play out his deal, go sign a John brown, cole Beasley and add even someone else(yes, I know using the bills here) and have 3 decent vets plus some young talent that doesn’t get thrown in over their head if MT rolls an ankle.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:52 pm to Solo Cam
quote:
No WR is worth 20 mil a year. Especially with the young guys we have coming up to sign that are much more important to the long term sustainable success of the saints.
I’ve always been of this line of thinking. Until Michael Thomas proved to essentially be a 1 man wr corps last year. And an effective one at that.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:59 pm to St Augustine
Thomas is a beast.
But our success has been due to the performance of our young o line. Force Thomas to take 18 and spread the other money to the big uglies.
Without them, Brees is poo and ak41 is tackled for a loss on most downs.
But our success has been due to the performance of our young o line. Force Thomas to take 18 and spread the other money to the big uglies.
Without them, Brees is poo and ak41 is tackled for a loss on most downs.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:01 pm to arseinclarse
quote:
Force Thomas
You first lol
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