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re: Mcshay said Mac Jones has moved up in his rankings to maybe the last pick of the first rd.

Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:14 pm to
The lil kid who wrote that article certainly isn’t an expert either. He’s a scrawny nerd who looks like he’s never played a sport in his life. If an ex nfl coach or player wrote that I’d say it’d be worth noting. Stats don’t tell the whole story. Anybody whose played sports at some point would agree with that. If stats told the whole story then QBs like mcaaron and Tua would be having huge success in the nfl right now and none of them have done anything. I’m not saying the kid is terrible by any means. It’s just history has shown that Alabama QBs college success doesn’t carry over into the nfl. And until that happens I won’t buy into the hype.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:18 pm to
Jesus Christ you gumps live in an alternate universe. I don’t even get why any of y’all are on this board, not like Bama fans are actual saints fans.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:22 pm to
Really?

If mac jones lasts till the last pick id take him all day.

He just has that it factor. Smart. Doesn't need the attention. I like mac jones a lot
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Jesus Christ you gumps live in an alternate universe

Jesus Christ some of you LSU fans live in alternative universe when it comes to anything Bama related.

I didn’t say I’m certain Mac is going to be great or we should draft him because I don’t know how he good he might be. That maybe a small sample size and questions about supporting cast and lack of athleticism are legitimate concerns. Now why would a homer say any of that? Yet you, an LSU fan, is already guaranteeing he will be nothing special. Who’s the being the biased one here?

You clearly do not watch him play. How are you going to compare him McElroy? They don’t play in the same type of offense nor did McElroy ever put up big stats. Mac is asked to make a lot more plays then McElroy ever was. Same goes for all the other guys he brought up. He’s hit guys in tight windows, hit them in stride on throw deep throws, anticipates where his receivers might, gone through his progressions, limited his mistakes greatly while still being aggressive, and made a variety of great throws all over the field.

I know you’re not going to change your mind. The reality is you, along with some others, would be saying the same thing no matter who the Bama QB is or how they play. Even if a Andrew Luck clone played here at QB, you guys would still be saying the same thing.

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I don’t even get why any of y’all are on this board, not like Bama fans are actual saints fans.

Who made you in charge of deciding who is or is not a Saints fan? If a former Bama player is playing against the Saints, I’m all for him having the worst game of the season if it means the Saints meaning.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 4:41 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:34 pm to
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I don’t even get why any of y’all are on this board, not like Bama fans are actual saints fans.


Check the name, son.

I've been a Saints fan for over 35 years.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22546 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:35 pm to
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It’s just history has shown that Alabama QBs college success doesn’t carry over into the nfl. And until that happens I won’t buy into the hype.

And what kind of NFL success at QB did LSU have prior to Burrow? Besides Oklahoma (recently at that for them, nothing before that), how many other schools out there pump out starting NFL QBs?
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5254 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:48 pm to
The McElroy comparison was bad I’ll admit that. And I’m not automatically saying he will be a bust. I’m just going off what I’ve seen from previous Bama QBs when they transition to the nfl. And honestly it goes for all elite QBs in college over the last several years. Most of the guys who dominated college haven’t amounted to anything. So really I’m just hesitant to buy into hype on any dominant college QB.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5254 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:50 pm to
Why?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:55 pm to
Because I'm from Mississippi and growing up in the 80s the only NFL game we got on Sunday's was the Saints.

I had season tickets for 4 years in the early 2000s.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5254 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:56 pm to
Interesting. I always assumed Bama fans were falcon fans. My bad chief.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:57 pm to
I hate the Falcons.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16511 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:13 pm to
Fuk that stiff. He’s terrible.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:17 pm to
Oh, look.

Another LSU idiot.
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:19 am to
You think that Mac Jones is in the same league as Joe Burrow? Really?? Seriously?? You want to compare LSU last year (we have a bad arse team every 4 to 8 years) to the Alabama run they have been on with their system QB's and dominant recruiting they have had in place since Nick took over in 2007? Because the LSU program and the Bama program are exactly the same, right? Yeah, sure.

Bama QB's are terrible. Forget Namath, Bart Starr and the ancient ones. I am talking about modern day offense in this era of football. Bama has game managers that go to the National Championship all the time - Jay Barker, John Parker Wilson, Greg McIlroy, McCarron, Blake Sims, all game manager college players. No one worth a shite that can play on the NFL level.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If I were you I would be concerned based on the Defense not getting off the field v ND for 3/4 of the game and your "stud" Heisman QB looking very ordinary with every conceivable advantage in his favor including the referees. I thought Bama would run away with it, but after being exposed v ND, I'm not so sure now.

Put your money where your mouth is or shut up. I will bet you these guys will be ordinary or wash out in the NFL inside 5 years. Tua is already on his way - benched again yesterday. PROVE ME WRONG or BET ME. Otherwise, shut up.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:32 am to
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You think that Mac Jones is in the same league as Joe Burrow? Really?? Seriously??


Alabama QB Mac Jones has orchestrated what is arguably the best passing attack in college football history

Stats and metrics don't lie, son.

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You want to compare LSU last year (we have a bad arse team every 4 to 8 years) to the Alabama run they have been on with their system QB's and dominant recruiting they have had in place since Nick took over in 2007? Because the LSU program and the Bama program are exactly the same, right? Yeah, sure.


So LSU's offense in 2019 didn't have 3 first round WRs, a first round RB and the best offensive line in the country?

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Bama QB's are terrible. Forget Namath, Bart Starr and the ancient ones. I am talking about modern day offense in this era of football. Bama has game managers that go to the National Championship all the time - Jay Barker, John Parker Wilson, Greg McIlroy, McCarron, Blake Sims, all game manager college players. No one worth a shite that can play on the NFL level.


None of the players you mentioned have even come close to Mac Jones' efficiency this season. Hell, Alabama runs a completely different offensive system since they attended UA. Jay Barker was in college 27 years ago.

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You have no idea what you are talking about.


These aren't my words: Alabama QB Mac Jones has orchestrated what is arguably the best passing attack in college football history

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If I were you I would be concerned based on the Defense not getting off the field v ND for 3/4 of the game and your "stud" Heisman QB looking very ordinary with every conceivable advantage in his favor including the referees. I thought Bama would run away with it, but after being exposed v ND, I'm not so sure now.


Well you aren't very bright, but I've noted your concerns.

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Put your money where your mouth is or shut up. I will bet you these guys will be ordinary or wash out in the NFL inside 5 years. Tua is already on his way - benched again yesterday. PROVE ME WRONG or BET ME. Otherwise, shut up.


Oh, no. Tua and Mac will make millions of dollars for 5 years. What am I gonna do with myself if they can't make it to Year Six?

Moron.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16511 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:00 pm to
Trask is worth taking late first. Jones is a stiff.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:02 pm to
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Trask is worth taking late first. Jones is a stiff.


Based on what, exactly?
Posted by GregoryD
Member since Dec 2016
421 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:31 pm to
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Jones gets taken by the Patriots after they trade back in the first. He's not even a marginally good athlete, but if you're looking for a dude who can manage games for you and throw downfield when he needs to, he's your guy.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20446 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 2:01 pm to
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Jones is playing behind an elite line that doesn’t allow anyone close enough to even sneeze on him. Stick any SEC QB behind that line with those receivers and I think you get similar results.
Good point, but just to be fair, that allows a QB to work on other things besides having to save his own arse every other play.

If he learned to quickly read the defense and make the throws on time, and he's able to make the throws, he's definitely worth a look. In Payton's scheme, you want to win with the play most of the time, not the player.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118977 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:52 pm to
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Trask is worth taking late first. Jones is a stiff.



Please no.

I still want to see more of Jones in the combine but Trask is not a winner. Do not want.
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