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re: Is Julio Jones a top 5 player in the league?
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:45 pm to Paul Allen
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:45 pm to Paul Allen
pretty sure Julio has had his fair share of fumbles against the Saints. One of the those fumbles the Saints recovered it and ran back for a TD in 2011 I believe.
i want to say he had a costly fumble in the 2013 season opener vs. Saints.
and also Jarius Byrd knocked the ball out his grasp the following season opener in Atlanta. He would've have scored if not for the fumble. Saints recovered the ball but lost that particular game.
He's easily a Top 5 WR in the league to me but he hasn't been a thorn in our side over the years like I thought he would be.
I think you could make a better case that Steve Smith tormented the Saints more than Julio has in his career. As good as Julio is, I hated it when we played the Panthers b/c of Steve Smith. Jerry Rice and T.O. goes without saying and so did the Rams Greatest Show on Turf offense.
he's a great player but he hasn't always had our number. That's all I really care about.
i want to say he had a costly fumble in the 2013 season opener vs. Saints.
and also Jarius Byrd knocked the ball out his grasp the following season opener in Atlanta. He would've have scored if not for the fumble. Saints recovered the ball but lost that particular game.
He's easily a Top 5 WR in the league to me but he hasn't been a thorn in our side over the years like I thought he would be.
I think you could make a better case that Steve Smith tormented the Saints more than Julio has in his career. As good as Julio is, I hated it when we played the Panthers b/c of Steve Smith. Jerry Rice and T.O. goes without saying and so did the Rams Greatest Show on Turf offense.
he's a great player but he hasn't always had our number. That's all I really care about.
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:46 pm to whatiknowsofar
Yeah def can’t
Posted on 6/26/18 at 6:25 am to oncealurker
Top 5 WR.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 7:48 am to dj30
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Not his fault Atlanta doesnt feed him in the red zone.
They feed him everywhere else and his catch rate is kind of bad for the caliber of player he is. 88 rec on 148 targets is kind of alarming for him. So he doesn't score and he can barely catch?
he ranks 47th at his position in catch %
34th in 2016
24th in 2015
Catch rate
Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:35 am to Sauce Castieaux
He's top 5 WR for sure. Any given sunday he's a top 5 player in the league too. They can overlap and he can also fall out of both categories the next week.
I'm hoping ATL does NOT re-sign Julio to a huge contract just because of his age. He's actually only missed a few games the last few seasons but ATL limits his snaps on purpose. My issue is that I think he'll decline rapidly in 2-3 years.
However, if ATL does NOT re-sign him, I'll look to this board to laugh at ATL and proclaim how we let one of the best WRs in the league to walk. It'll be good times for all!
I'm hoping ATL does NOT re-sign Julio to a huge contract just because of his age. He's actually only missed a few games the last few seasons but ATL limits his snaps on purpose. My issue is that I think he'll decline rapidly in 2-3 years.
However, if ATL does NOT re-sign him, I'll look to this board to laugh at ATL and proclaim how we let one of the best WRs in the league to walk. It'll be good times for all!
Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:05 am to Sauce Castieaux
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They feed him everywhere else and his catch rate is kind of bad for the caliber of player he is. 88 rec on 148 targets is kind of alarming for him. So he doesn't score and he can barely catch?
he ranks 47th at his position in catch %
34th in 2016
24th in 2015
Do you even depth of target? As the distance between the WR and QB grows, the efficiency goes down
There’s a reason 18 if the top 20 in catch % are RBs and the other two are TEs. Then there’s a reason the Michael Thomas, golden Tate’s, Jarvis Landry’s (and other slot guys) gave the highest catch % for WR - they catch the ball closer to the LOS
Teams lose sleep gameplanning guys like AB, Julio and Odell for a reason.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:22 am to GynoSandberg
this list is a what have you done for me lately....
Wentz at #3 and Rodgers at #10
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Wentz at #3 and Rodgers at #10
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:30 am to htran90
Eh Wentz was great this year till he went down.
I think He was leading the NFL in TDS and finished second after missing the last few games, and he was on the best team in the NFL.
#3 is probably fair.
I think He was leading the NFL in TDS and finished second after missing the last few games, and he was on the best team in the NFL.
#3 is probably fair.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:22 am to SammyTiger
Julio, AB, and Odell are in a league of there own when it comes to wideouts. Thomas is on the cusp of making it into that group but he’s still not quite as dominant. I personally think he’s about to be there though.
On any given day they are the best in the NFL. I personally think AB is the most consistent.
On any given day they are the best in the NFL. I personally think AB is the most consistent.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:56 am to SammyTiger
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Eh Wentz was great this year till he went down.
Remember when luck, Stafford, Carr, etc had great seasons and people were putting them elite tier?
Hell, you can include Newton and Ryan. It's not about one year, it's about body of work over a period of time.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:10 pm to oncealurker
Julio is pretty fricking good. I’m not sure exactly where I’d rank him. Those kind of lists may be fun, but they’re too subjective for substantive discussion, imo.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:14 pm to St Augustine
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For me it’s AB, Nuk, Julio, Green, Odel ( if he doesn’t lose a step post injury and calms down), then Mike as of right now. In terms of the big, fast physical freaks I actually like Nuk more than Julio because he seems to stay on the field more and has done a lot with much less at qb. Guy is a gamer.
Just for the record: MT is faster than Hopkins.
Hopkins is for sure a top 5 WR, but to me that just shows that Thomas’ lack of elite speed doesn’t mean he can’t be at the top of the WR pile
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:35 pm to Rand AlThor
I don’t think that’s accurate. Hopkins messed up at combine but then killed it on other workouts running a 4.41.
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Hopkins put up a 4.41-second time in his second 40-yard run at the Tigers' recently opened indoor football facility. Hopkins' first-run time of 4.46 seconds was also faster than his NFL scouting combine time of 4.57 seconds.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:17 pm to dj30
Brown, Hopkins, OBJ, Green are better than him. He's #5
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:33 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Julio is too. He's definitely 6 or 7 right now.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:36 pm to Rand AlThor
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Hopkins is for sure a top 5 WR, but to me that just shows that Thomas’ lack of elite speed doesn’t mean he can’t be at the top of the WR pile
“Big plays” differentiate the elite (Hopkins) from the next tier that MT is in. Hopkins has a penchant for big plays that Thomas hasn’t shown yet
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:45 pm to htran90
The list is literally based on the past year.
That’s it’s premise.
That’s it’s premise.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:47 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Green is not better than him.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:56 pm to Mook1e
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I think Julio and AB are in tier 1
Odell and Nuk tier 2
Mike Thomas and AJ tier 3
Two player tiers eh?
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