re: Ingram should be traded for a receiver and nothing else...

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We lost games because of offense, defense and special teams last year.

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Correct.

the Giants game, Denver, and even the Carolina Thursday night game were lost because of special teams in my opinion.

the Giants game was tough cause for once our D came up with a bunch of takeaways in a road game. But in the end.. it was a Crawley hate fest on this board for the PI that set up the winning points for NYG.

the Denver game stayed close cause of the defense. Mike Thomas has a rough day with fumbles on offense. Then of course the blocked extra point at the end.. what a joke.

the Carolina game was a 10 point swing after a blocked kick too. They block it.. the return for a TD is wiped out by a penalty but then they capitalize shortly after with a TD anyway. Then for whatever reason we take our time trying to cut the deficit with a time sustaining drive in the 4th quarter. That game was a pathetic display by Payton.. totally opposite from the attack style that served him well for so long.

Ingram for Hunter straight up trade!

I do not want to trade Ingram. I assumed we'd draft a WR, but liked the perceived value we got with all our picks. But I think we can all agree that Ginn is not replacing Cooks' production. But to me, it's about depth. If Thomas or Snead go down, WR becomes a pretty big weakness.

We are going to have to sign somebody before camp. It's not like Drew has the arm strength now to just run around back there like Rodgers and wing it when somebody finally gets open. Our passing game relies so much on precision timing and Drew and the WR being on the same page. I'm not saying throw a ton of money at somebody still available now--and frick a trade in the arse--but I don't think it's as easy as just picking some dude up off the street week 4 if one of our main guys goes down.


That said, can't wait to see how Sean uses Kamara. He may wind up being a glorified slot receiver himself.

20 mill is just the going rate.

Glennon got 18 and he isn't one of the greatest QBs of all time.

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Had their 5th year options picked up and won't be FA's until 2018.

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True, but this is still a great WR FA group:

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Sammy Watkins, Jarvis Landry, Jordan Matthews, Devante Adams, Allen Robinson, Donte Moncrief and Martavis Bryant

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Just a top running back who has gotten better every year he's been in the league. But we should trade him for another team's 3rd receiver and a bag of chips.

The thread would be more honest if it were renamed "Ingram should be traded because he went to Alabama"

You are certifiably retarded.

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Drew needs some WR weapons...

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Michael Thomas

He's got weapons, hoss.

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Jimmy Graham, Marques Colston, Jeremy Shockey, Darren Sproles, Brandin Cooks


Less than half those names are receivers.

And with all due respect to Colston, while a good receiver, I wouldn't say he is a "weapon" to the likes of a Beckham, Jones, or Brown.

Look at what Tom Brady did with Randy Moss. Ridiculous regular season and playoff run that ended with a miracle catch beating them for the super bowl.

Imagine if Brees had an actual weapon and not just good receiving tight ends/running backs.

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What likely would happen is that the offensive rhythm would get disrupted. A Randy Moss type of guy is someone that would demand the ball a lot.

That's not, and has never been Brees' game. He doesn't want superstars freelancing and demanding the ball, he wants generic players with good hands, that will be where he expects them to be, so that he can quickly read the play, and hit the open guy. One should be faster so he can run deep, one should be a shifty guy out of the backfield so he can abuse a linebacker trying to cover him.