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re: I'm not saying give Allen a pass, but injuries matter

Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:22 pm to
Can’t blame injuries on defense. And it has become a complete shitshow. Entire defensive line has been healthy and the corners.

Two most important areas on that side of the ball.

This needs to be his last year. Hes one of the worse head coaches in the league. Every game we are starting at a disadvantage.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 10:23 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32407 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:11 pm to
A bad season from a good coach, nbd. Happens. You ride with it because you know his potential.

Multiple bad seasons and lackluster ones, now marred by injury is no excuse
Posted by armytiger33
Vestavia Hills, Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
726 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:59 am to
Poor ole Dennis Allen, dude makes 3.5 million dollars a year. Every coach in football deals with injured players. Dan Campbell didn’t throw in the towel when Hutchinson broke his leg. Next man up, and if next man up can’t cut it, cut him and find someone who can. DA gets up at press conference and says we have a bunch of injuries, then says that’s not an excuse. Sounded like an excuse to me.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3463 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:14 am to
I want DA gone and burn it down totally from top to bottom. We have a complete lack of backup talent and that is DA’s and Micky’s fault so they both gotta go. Do the Saints have excessive injuries; sure they do but our backups are terrible.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72457 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:24 am to
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Poor ole Dennis Allen, dude makes 3.5 million dollars a year. Every coach in football deals with injured players. Dan Campbell didn’t throw in the towel when Hutchinson broke his leg. Next man up, and if next man up can’t cut it, cut him and find someone who can. DA gets up at press conference and says we have a bunch of injuries, then says that’s not an excuse. Sounded like an excuse to me.


They also lost their all pro…wait for it…..center….. for a bit. And didn’t completely collapse.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 9:25 am
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12617 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:29 am to
It would be more comparable if the lions then lost their next 2 centers and both guards.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3634 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:35 am to
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8500 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 8:10 am to
The Eagles game happened, though. We were exposedand either had no counterpunch or, later on, injuries made a counterpunch impossible.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12617 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 8:36 am to
If we had the eagles game over, I'd hope we would keep Patrick at guard. When McCoy went down, we essentially lost our center and guard bc Patrick sucks at center.
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
570 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:10 am to
Our defense is horrible with minor injuries. He hired the coaches..
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
2158 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:31 pm to
The Saints have had alot of injuries for years and ML does nothing
about the S@C staff.These soft tissue problems can be avoided with the
proper strenght and stretching exercises.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14469 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:59 pm to
The management described future HOF coach should have been able to manufacture a couple of wins during the five game losing streak regardless of injuries.

Other great coaches are able to ride the tide of bad luck or injuries. DA is unable to consistently win games even when the team is relatively healthy.

DA’s poor red zone decisions and endgame decisions costs the Saints a few victories last season. He is simply subpar and not a leader of men.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48180 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:29 pm to
give dennis allen the all madden team and he will fail. he just sucks as a head coach. thats all there is to it.
Posted by Paytonisablowhard
Member since Feb 2024
1187 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

It would be more comparable if the lions then lost their next 2 centers and both guards.


What's this? Someone trying to post logic on a forum full of GMs, coaches, owners, trainers, talent evaluators.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17180 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:04 am to
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The niners are a shell of themselves bc of injuries, and one of the best coaches in football can't win with massive injuries


You’re not wrong but the timing just lines up. Getting rid of Allen even if the injuries are most of the reason for this season’s failures is the right move for the long term. Allen isn’t going to be the coach this team needs and better to do it after a disastrous season than one where the team is flirting with getting into the playoffs.

But Honestly Loomis should also shoulder most of the blame for the weak roster and little depth. But we all know he’s not going anywhere until he decides to go so probably not even worth lamenting.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2601 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:25 am to
I am not. Allen can't field a good D. He needs to be gone.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1700 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:08 pm to
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The niners are a shell of themselves bc of injuries, and one of the best coaches in football can't win with massive injuries

Andy Reid says 'Hi'.

Joking aside, nobody would equate Allen and Reid. But it IS possible to be successful with a massive number of injuries, as long as your coaching staff is able to use the available players to their maximum potential.
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
2265 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 10:26 pm to
Injuries DO matter, but the Saints did it to themselves, trading away draft picks instead of building depth. Is Ireland still with the team?' I'd thought the drafting had gotten better when he came on board. Maybe give Mueller the controls.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9395 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 11:58 pm to
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Multiple things can be true. Allen isn’t a good head coach AND no coach in the league could win with what we have on the field right now.

Allen doesn’t get a pass for his defense though, which isn’t nearly as beat up as the offense.


Ding, ding, we have a winner!!
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9395 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:01 am to
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Andy Reid says 'Hi'.


As you said, no one would rightly compare Reid with Allen. But if you think KC's injuries are in the same stratosphere as the Saints, you're not paying attention. .
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