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If you’re drafting for an impact player in year 1, the safest position for us is LB
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:22 am
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:22 am
Quarantine research!
Which Positions Are the Safest, Riskiest at the Top of the NFL Draft?
Looking at just the last 3 years of 1st round picks:
Linebackers:
Devin White
Devin Bush
Roquan Smith
Tremaine Edmunds
Leighton Vander Esch
Rashaad Evans
Haasan Reddick
Jarred Davis
TJ Watt
- all but Reddick made significant impact as rookies, though some (Smith, Davis) we’re limited by injury. Several are major-league studs and team leaders.
Wide Receiver
Marquise Brown
N’keal Harry
DJ Moore
Calvin Ridley
Corey Davis
Mike Williams
John Ross
- Harry, Davis, Williams, and Ross were all disappointments as rookies.
Add to this that LB is a need for the Saints, more than WR (at least for 2020), and I remain all in for Murray or Queen at 24.
Which Positions Are the Safest, Riskiest at the Top of the NFL Draft?
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Safest first-round picks: Safety, linebacker, interior offensive line
At safety, you're three times more likely to draft a Pro Bowler than a bust in the first round. And only the interior offensive line positions have produced All-Pros more frequently.
Riskiest first-round picks: Running back, defensive line, wide receiver
There are more busts than Pro Bowlers coming out of the first round at running back and defensive line, while it's about even for wide receivers.
Biggest tossups in the first round: Quarterback, cornerback
Quarterback is the only position above 40 percent when it comes to producing both Pro Bowlers and busts over the 25-year sample. It remains above 30 percent in both areas in the 10-year sample.
Looking at just the last 3 years of 1st round picks:
Linebackers:
Devin White
Devin Bush
Roquan Smith
Tremaine Edmunds
Leighton Vander Esch
Rashaad Evans
Haasan Reddick
Jarred Davis
TJ Watt
- all but Reddick made significant impact as rookies, though some (Smith, Davis) we’re limited by injury. Several are major-league studs and team leaders.
Wide Receiver
Marquise Brown
N’keal Harry
DJ Moore
Calvin Ridley
Corey Davis
Mike Williams
John Ross
- Harry, Davis, Williams, and Ross were all disappointments as rookies.
Add to this that LB is a need for the Saints, more than WR (at least for 2020), and I remain all in for Murray or Queen at 24.
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:32 am to dcw7g
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all but Reddick made significant impact as rookies
What’s funny is besides Smith, White and Bush, I thought he had the biggest chance to make an impact of all those guys.
I don’t disagree with your premise though. OL, DL and LBer are usually good bets.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:02 am to dcw7g
We need to take multiple lb's i think. We need to throw more than one dart at this. Biggest hole and it's not even close anymore. D.davis also isnt a spring chicken, so whether you are talking about this year or for the future....the hole is still lb
So you can take bpa, but if it isnt a lb, we need to make a trade so we can take a lb as bpa.
So you can take bpa, but if it isnt a lb, we need to make a trade so we can take a lb as bpa.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:04 am to dcw7g
Not disagreeing with your post, but I'd be intrigued with the interior OL guys. Warford is on the last year of his deal, can save $8M if he's cut.
Peat is now locked in for at least the next 2 years bc of the costs of his new deal & it appears we're set at C.
Peat is now locked in for at least the next 2 years bc of the costs of his new deal & it appears we're set at C.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:40 am to Weekend Warrior79
Man I would still take a shot at receiver.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:12 pm to Weekend Warrior79
I def think G, WR and LB are the picks
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:38 pm to dcw7g
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Add to this that LB is a need for the Saints, more than WR (at least for 2020), and I remain all in for Murray or Queen at 24.
Sigh.....
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:47 pm to dcw7g
Agree with this, but also have to account for the natural fluctuations and flows of the draft. These mocks are driven by teams who feed bogus information to Mchsay and Kiper in order to bluff other teams as to who they really like. Would bet my house Derrick Brown, who everyone and their mother has going 7 to Carolina, goes before 7. DET should take him at 3 if they were smart
Mocks are based on need and player that fit such need. Last year everyone was stunned when Ferrell went 4. Truth is we don't know where any player stands on a team's board
Mocks are based on need and player that fit such need. Last year everyone was stunned when Ferrell went 4. Truth is we don't know where any player stands on a team's board
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:09 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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I'd be intrigued with the interior OL guys
I’m just not sure there is IOL value at 24. Maybe if we trade back. Plus, my OP argument is who would help us most now. We’re OK at IOL for 2020.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:12 pm to CraigBLSU
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Man I would still take a shot at receiver.
I wouldn’t cry if we could get Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb, or JJetts. But... I might have said the same thing about Corey Davis or John Ross. LB still probably the safer pick.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:00 pm to dcw7g
quote:
We’re OK at IOL for 2020.
Can't argue that, but ML can work miracles with a extra $8M
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:10 pm to dcw7g
quote:
Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb,
yall plan on trading up into the top 15?
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:39 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
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Hell would have frozen over if the 2nd best qb BY FAR fell to 24.
Bet at least one of those fall outside the top 15
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:59 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
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quote:
Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb,
yall plan on trading up into the top 15?
I didn’t claim it was realistic, but those or Jefferson are the only WR I’d accept in the 1st round.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:08 pm to dcw7g
Linebacker Aaron Curry was by far regarded as the safest pick in the 2009 draft. He was as safe as there ever was.
He was a bust.
Not disagreeing with you, OP. I just remember all the y’all about how safe of a pick he was.
He was a bust.
Not disagreeing with you, OP. I just remember all the y’all about how safe of a pick he was.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:14 pm to Townedrunkard
Who are you quoting?
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:57 pm to Soup Sammich
quote:
Who are you quoting?
He was multi board posting and played himself
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:40 pm to dcw7g
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still take a shot at WR
With E Sanders now in the fold I'd love to add Ruggs to the mix. That combo of receivers would be pretty filthy imo. Totally cool with us taking a LB or a corner though.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:47 pm to dcw7g
I wish I had more confidence that we actually have a season. I read that DJT called upon Goodell to start the season on time. But who knows?
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:00 pm to jkylejohnson
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With E Sanders now in the fold I'd love to add Ruggs to the mix. That combo of receivers would be pretty filthy imo. Totally cool with us taking a LB or a corner though.
I think Ruggs will be good I just don’t think he will be very effective in our system. He needs to go to a team with a strong arm qb that can just sling it 60 yards and tell him to go get it. That will provide him the cushion to also capitalize on underneath stuff. I just don’t think we will be able to use his skill sets at least until Brees retires.
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