re: How long are the Saints locked in New Orleans?

I’m not sure the market here has the same demand for premium seating, especially post Brees/Payton and current Latoya regime. I’ve been getting emails for suites this year so I know they’re having trouble moving them. You can get a two game suite package for $35k - full season is six figures. It will be interesting to see what businesses are investing in those seats going forward

The 500-600 section houses a shite ton of people. That’s a lot of volume and increasing the throughput to concessions and revamping the bathroom would seem to make monetary sense

So where do they Saints "make their money"?

I never said State of the Art. If that were the case, then you would need a new stadium every 20 years.

I have season tickets in the 600s and I think it has plenty enough room and amenities. A lot of bathrooms and concessions. Also easy to get in and out especially once this renovation is done.

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I never said State of the Art.

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Every time something is published about the renovations, they refer to the Dome as state of the art.

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I have season tickets in the 600s and I think it has plenty enough room and amenities. A lot of bathrooms and concessions. Also easy to get in and out especially once this renovation is done.

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I do too. I sit in the endzones.

The main concession is directly next to the men's room, and is at the bottom of the ramp that takes you into the upper 600's. There is about 20' of concourse between the concession and the wall. It is completely impassable before kickoff and around halftime.


You said you've been to a lot of stadiums. If you have been to newer ones, there is no way you consider this "plenty of room and amenities". That is a ridiculous statement.


That is typical New Orleans. It is ours, and it has character, so it must stand up to other things, comparably.

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Jacksonville

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One of the eleven biggest cities in the country

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I’m assuming that’s the metro area?

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They were all Metro Statistical Areas.

New Orleans' MSA grew from the 2019 census estimates of 1,270,530 to the final 2020 census to 1,271,845. The New Orleans Combined Statistical Area (which also includes Hammond MSA (1h1m), Bogalusa µSA (1h22m), and Picayune µSA (55m)) was 1,510,672 as of the 2019 census estimates (no data for 2020 final census). That was also the 45th largest market, at the time in 2020.

That doesn't include the Baton Rouge MSA (870,569 as of 2020, 1h18m), Houma-Thibodeaux MSA (207,137 as of 2020, 1h12m), or the Gulfport-Biloxi MSA (417,665 as of 2019, 1h36m). That's another 1,495,371 people. Combined with the New Orleans CSA, that's 3,006,043 people within a two hour drive of the Superdome as of 2019/2020.

Fewer people would drive further than that for a game every week (and technically Hattiesburg is within 2 hours), but there are some other statistical areas that would still be considered "in the market" for the Saints (markets in the South being more spread out than the Northeast and Midwest, and New Orleans not having competing markets nearby even compared to a Jacksonville). That would probably include:

The Hattiesburg-Laurel CSA (253,330, 1h52m). The Lafayette-Opelousas-Morgan City CSA (620,679, 2h16m). The Mobile-Daphne-Fairhope CSA (661,964 as of 2019, 2h16m). That's another 1,535,973 people, for a total of 4,542,016 in the "market" for the Saints.

If you expand it to around 3 hours: The Jackson-Vicksburg-Brookhaven MSA (674,340 as of 2019, 2h52m). The Natchez µSA (49,952, 2h52m). The Pensacola-Ferry Pass CSA (539,262, 3h5m). The Alexandria MSA (152,037, 3h38m). That's another 1,263,554 people, for a total of 5,805,570 in the extended "market" for the Saints.

Obviously not all of those people would be Saints fans, just as no other market would consist only of one team's fans. There are also Saints fans who are living in other markets elsewhere who don't count towards this "market" derived from population within proximity. The point is that the regional numbers do not suggest a market size issue. The potential corporate support is certainly lacking compared to most other locations. The viewership numbers (which partially drive advertising revenue, one of the largest sources of revenue - and, thus, value - for the league) compared to other locations somewhat counterbalances that.