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Posted on 4/26/25 at 5:48 pm to Handsome Pete
I wouldn’t mind having Brooks and Redmond. Redmond isn’t fast, but he finds the softs spots in coverage and sits down nicely. Brooks is a damn game breaker……both have a nice rapport with Shough already
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:55 pm to DamStrongTeam
quote:He’s gonna be good! With Shough’s age and the amount of times they’ve connected on plays, I would imagine Shough campaigning for Brooks to be on his NFL team within decent reason.
Can we get Brooks too
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:09 pm to Handsome Pete
Put that arm along with our depth at RB and line we should have a nice season
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:05 pm to BayouFann
quote:Let's see what Moore and Nussmeier can do with him with a "Below Average" NFL OL. (Even with Banks, it's a "BA" OL)
That’s some NFL starting QB shyt right there!
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:36 am to GynoSandberg
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Isn’t that part of the problem here Dave? Buddy needs to drink some milk
Saints took a chance on a 27 year old drew brees with a busted shoulder.
Worked out well for them.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:05 am to Handsome Pete
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Dude has a gun. Really like th play he makes at 1:55.
Shough is in the Trey Lance/Flacco/Josh Allen/Jordan Love realm of prospects.
Size/speed/rocket arm combo, without huge college stats/production.
Im down for it.
I know at one point the Bills fans were thinking frick we just took this dude from Wyoming.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:37 am to Mouth
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Basically. SFP did not have Shuck on his radar. Therefore he is not any good.
No. quote:
He thinks he should be treated as a top 5 pick.
He's going to be 26 on game 1 and was drafted top-40, brother.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:40 am to David Bowman
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How was Tyler Shough unsuccessful? He threw for 3200 yards, 23 TDs with 6 INT last year for 9-4 Louisville
That's very mid, and what else did he do the other 6 years in college?
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Was he less "successful" in college than Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Brock Purdy, or Pat Mahomes?
Other than Josh Allen (who is a unicorn and 1 of 1), he was FAR less successful
Also, Purdy was a 7th and Dak was a 4th.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:01 am to David Bowman
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How was Tyler Shough unsuccessful? He threw for 3200 yards, 23 TDs with 6 INT last year for 9-4 Louisville. Was he less "successful" in college than Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Brock Purdy, or Pat Mahomes.
The Karens on here just need to fricking whine, piss and moan. Shough is one of several qb prospects who fall in the category of qb with size/speed/rocket arm WITHOUT alot of college success to get drafted high.
Jordan Love, Josh Allen, Trey Lance, Flacco, and Daniel Jones come to mind immediately.
All had prototype measurable and not alot of college production.
Jordan Loves last year in college:
3400 yards 20/17 tds/ints
Allen:
1800 yards 16/6
Lance:
2800 yards 28/0 then played 1 game his last year at NDakota state
Flacco:
4000 yards, 23/5
Daniel Jones:
2600 22/9
For context purposes. Also, age wise, Pennix/Nix all hit the NFL at 24 years old.
Nix is now 25, Pennix is about to be 25.
Daniels is now 24.
Cam Ward is about to turn 23.
Shough is 25 going on 26. The age really isnt a factor.
I dont think Atlanta gives a frick that Pennix will be 25 next year starting his first nfl season as a starter.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:39 am to P bean
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All had prototype measurable and not alot of college production.
As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
This only applies to Lance.
Allen was mid, but he's a unicorn.
Love, Flacco, and Jones had college production.
Jones started for 2 years in college. his 26 year old season was 2023 (his 5th)
Love started for 2 years in college. His 26 year old season was last year (his 4th)
Flacco started for 2 year in college. His 26 year old season was his 4th
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Shough is 25 going on 26. The age really isnt a factor.
He's the 3rd older quarterback ever drafted by the NFL.
The other 2 did more in college and were better college QBs and were dogshit in the NFL, for reference purposes.
Is it theoretically possible he turns into a top-5 QB? sure. Anything is possible.
Are the odds, based on the totality of his draft profile and the data therein, extremely low he become a quality starter? Yes. He would need to be the outlier of outliers.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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He's going to be 26 on game 1 and was drafted top-40, brother
I just still can’t justify this. This is where the Saints frick up every year. And it’s what separates the good teams from the bad ones. There were only a few teams that needed quarterbacks and two were already picked. So there was absolutely no rush to draft him this early.
I bet we could have traded down and picked up an extra second for next year and still got him. I woulda felt a lot better if we did something like that. No one was picking him in the 2nd round and we blew a top 40 pick in him.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 7:54 am
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:12 am to Townedrunkard
quote:Todd McShay thinks the Rams might've drafted him later in the 2nd to succeed Matt Stafford in a year or two. Albert Breer told Ryan Rusillo that Kevin Stefanski with the Browns was a Shough guy, and they could've picked him before us in the 3rd. Trading down is a nice idea, but you have to be willing to miss out on your player.
There were only a few teams that needed quarterbacks and two were already picked. So there was absolutely no rush to draft him this early.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:13 am to Townedrunkard
If he was just a "toolsy" prospect who only started 1 year and was mid, that alone makes his odds of success relatively low.
If he was only ancient for a QB prospect, that alone makes his odds of success relatively low.
If it was only due to 5 years of injury after injury inhibiting his play, that alone makes his odds of success relatively low.
He's got all 3 red flags.
Falling in love with a guy 2(+) more years of experience than every other QB in the draft because he can do whiteboard work the best is worrisome.
It just screams need-based pick and thinking they HAD to have a QB this year in the draft, which screams they believe they're in win now mode, which is scary. We have to add that into the calculations/evaluations, too.
If he was only ancient for a QB prospect, that alone makes his odds of success relatively low.
If it was only due to 5 years of injury after injury inhibiting his play, that alone makes his odds of success relatively low.
He's got all 3 red flags.
Falling in love with a guy 2(+) more years of experience than every other QB in the draft because he can do whiteboard work the best is worrisome.
It just screams need-based pick and thinking they HAD to have a QB this year in the draft, which screams they believe they're in win now mode, which is scary. We have to add that into the calculations/evaluations, too.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:26 am to Handsome Pete
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Todd McShay thinks the Rams might've drafted him later in the 2nd to succeed Matt Stafford
So he’d be pushing 30 by the time he succeeds Stafford. Doubtful….
And it’s the Browns. We are in real trouble if we are having to justify our picks based on if the Browns would have been stupid enough to draft him in the 3rd.
Loomis just trying to be the smartest person in the room again and I’m sure it won’t blow up in their faces like all the other times….
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 8:31 am
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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It just screams need-based pick and thinking they HAD to have a QB this year in the draft, which screams they believe they're in win now mode, which is scary. We have to add that into the calculations/evaluations, too.
100% agree. They can’t see the forest through the trees. This draft needed to be about adding the most talented guys to a roster barren of talent at any position. And we failed miserably.
We were last in the division going in and I’d say every team in our division had a better draft. 4th round on, our draft was good. But we fricked up the top 3 rounds.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 8:34 am
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:45 am to P bean
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Love, Flacco, and Jones had college production.
Here comes Karen with her biased opinions.
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Jordan Loves last year in college: 3400 yards 20/17 tds/ints
Flacco: 4000 yards, 23/5
Daniel Jones: 2600 22/9
Shough: 3100 23/6
Love/flacco/jones “college production” versus Shough.
Karening at its finest. Lets play pretend and hate the Saints!
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 9:46 am
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:48 am to P bean
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He's got all 3 red flags.
Lets pretend like Shough’s age is a big deal.
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Pennix/Nix all hit the NFL at 24 years old.
Nix is now 25, Pennix is about to be 25.
Daniels is now 24.
Cam Ward is about to turn 23.
Shough is 25 going on 26.
The age really isnt a factor
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:59 am to P bean
quote:Because almost everyone, me included, thought Rosen was going to be far better. Most didn't know just how much he didn't want to play though. We'll never know if he actually would have been better, but the Bills obviously knew about Rosen's heart not being in it.
I know at one point the Bills fans were thinking frick we just took this dude from Wyoming.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:59 am to P bean
It's clear a lot of posters can't get past Shough's age. I get it, he's an outlier. Personally, I'm less concerned because his prolonged college career was due to freak injuries, not poor performance. Obviously some on this board don't care, and that's fine, but I'd also like to see some argument that he lacks the necessary skills to be a top QB.
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