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re: For those of you that think trading the third wasn't a big deal
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
So what would you think it’s better to get nothing and have him go back to Fox?
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:56 pm to whatiknowsofar
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The fricking apathy over this trade is pathetic. Yall need spines.
How pissed would you be if reports came out that Mickey wouldn't trade Payton over a third round pick? Then the following year, we get worse in return OR nothing at all.
I'll take a first this year and two seconds next year vs nothing at all.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:58 pm to DBG
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You’re cherry-picking to make some grand point while ignoring that the vast majority of stars still come from the first 2 rounds.
It's not cherry picking when the saints draft very well in the 3rd compared to the average success rate of 3rd round picks. If they're hitting on 50% in the last 5 years alone that's far better than the rest of the league.
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You’re also using 2017 as a gauge when that’s one of the best drafts in NFL history, very unlikely to be repeated.
Oh we drafted too well that doesn't count my bad. Jesus christ.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:01 pm to WicKed WayZ
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How pissed would you be if reports came out that Mickey wouldn't trade Payton over a third round pick
You have to understand the saints had ALL the leverage. Ryans wasn't going to Denver, the Broncos mortgaged their future and needed a qb coach. You can't tell me we couldn't have flexed and made them accept a 5th rounder or two 6ths.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:02 pm to Damone
I'm ok with the trade. I'm a dumbass that doesn't understand negotiations or leverage or how draft compensation should work. Mickey has an impeccable history of getting value for the assets we do have.
-Damone.
Sorry I didn't look up a picture and make a meme dude. You're not that important.
-Damone.
Sorry I didn't look up a picture and make a meme dude. You're not that important.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:03 pm to whatiknowsofar
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It's not cherry picking when the saints draft very well in the 3rd compared to the average success rate of 3rd round picks.
Armstead and Graham were way before Ireland got here. Our track record for second round picks is better than both our first and third round selections so maybe Denver did us a favor
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:07 pm to WicKed WayZ
Giving up the third was weak af honestly. but it's what I expected, Loomis is not a shrewd negotiator. We all knew this, don't know why we expected any real compensation.
SP was, sadly, the most valuable asset the franchise had and we traded his rights for pennies on the dollar. Typical Saints, typical Loomis.
SP was, sadly, the most valuable asset the franchise had and we traded his rights for pennies on the dollar. Typical Saints, typical Loomis.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:17 pm to whatiknowsofar
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It's not cherry picking when the saints draft very well in the 3rd compared to the average success rate of 3rd round picks. If they're hitting on 50% in the last 5 years alone that's far better than the rest of the league.
You’re letting past results dictate the future. Why should I bank on drafting Alvin Kamara again and not Garrett Grayson? Just because? The data tells you that star players predominantly come from rounds 1-2.
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Oh we drafted too well that doesn't count my bad. Jesus christ.
It’s called an outlier.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:22 pm to WicKed WayZ
There likely would have been a team MORE desperate for Payton next year.
Not sure why people don’t get that.
Not sure why people don’t get that.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:23 pm to whatiknowsofar
Saints keep getting trade raped
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:23 pm to trex1250
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There likely would have been a team MORE desperate for Payton next year.
Who? Zero way to predict this.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:26 pm to DBG
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You’re letting past results dictate the future.
Holy hell that is how you plan when it comes to drafting. How well do we scout? What rounds have we been successful in, etc.
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Just because? The data tells you that star players predominantly come from rounds 1-2.
The data also tells you that you draft at a much better success rate in the 3rd than the norm. You should've been able to keep that 3rd. It's not an excuse at this point.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:32 pm to whatiknowsofar
We just gave them out like candy last draft. One of the reasons I didn’t care for the Olave trade. So whatever.
I honestly thought we’d get a first and a third for him. Saints wanted more so, this was the compromise. Just sucks the first is so late and they gave the house away for Russ or we probably keep the third.
I honestly thought we’d get a first and a third for him. Saints wanted more so, this was the compromise. Just sucks the first is so late and they gave the house away for Russ or we probably keep the third.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:42 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You’re also using 2017 as a gauge when that’s one of the best drafts in NFL history, very unlikely to be repeated.
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Oh we drafted too well that doesn't count my bad. Jesus christ.
You are an idiot lol
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:59 pm to whatiknowsofar
Based on that logic, we shouldn’t have accepted a first round pick since the last few have been so-so.
Am I doing this right?
Am I doing this right?
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:06 pm to DBG
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Based on that logic, we shouldn’t have accepted a first round pick since the last few have been so-so.
Am I doing this right?
Why are you missing the entire argument that I've been trying to make the entire time? The 3rd round pick is valuable and we shouldn't have given it up, that's my entire point. It's the thread title. Your arguments have nothing to do with my statement, and you're just trying to argue around it like a jackass
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:11 pm to whatiknowsofar
Mickey has to be the worst negotiator of all time...
All the talk of needing two first round picks just to only get one AND give a pick back. I get that we didn't have much leverage but neither did Denver, this was their last option.
ETA: Melt is over. I'll take the first round pick
All the talk of needing two first round picks just to only get one AND give a pick back. I get that we didn't have much leverage but neither did Denver, this was their last option.
ETA: Melt is over. I'll take the first round pick
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:11 pm to whatiknowsofar
Your “point” is that we should value a 3rd round pick more than other teams because we struck gold 6 years ago and drafted some other solid role players over the years.
That’s not good enough to potentially sabotage a deal for a useless asset in Payton that nets 2 indisputably better draft picks.
That’s not good enough to potentially sabotage a deal for a useless asset in Payton that nets 2 indisputably better draft picks.
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