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tigersquad89
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For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
You do realize the saints can’t win a super bowl without Thomas right? He had an incident and now let’s see if he learns from it. This is an all or nothing year. If his attitude continues after this season then I could see it being a possibility. But let’s pump the brakes on all that crazy talk.

I listened to Brandon Marshall on first things first today. He talked about his time in New Orleans. He said that payton and brees understand Thomas because they are extremely competitive like he is. All I’ve ever heard about Thomas is how hard he works. Brandon Marshall praised him for how hard he worked on every snap in every practice. Brandon Marshall said he’s never seen a player that went 100% with everything he did. He said even in walkthroughs Thomas would be going 100% in flip flops. He also told a story about him asking Thomas if he wanted to go grab something to eat after practice and Thomas refused saying that he just planned on watching film. The guy is committed and I love that about him.

I agree that if somebody is a constant cancer in the locker room then it’s not good for the team. Thomas hasn’t been that though. This is the first we are hearing of this. I feel pretty confident that this will all blow over and Thomas will ball out the rest of the year. But let’s pump the brakes on this trade/cut talk that people are saying.

Let’s see how MT13 responds to this situation then make our judgements.

I’d point people towards Nick Underhills YouTube channel/podcast to listen to the way he talks about mike Thomas. He says he’s never met somebody more focused on football. That’s saying a lot considering nick has been around football for a while now.
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TIGERSby10
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
If, and I mean If, Thomas changes his attitude that he is bigger than the team, then yes I will let it go and pull for him to stick around, but that is the only way.


saints5021
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
Can't win a superbowl with a 41 year old QB who can only dink and dunk and a defense that doesn't know how to keep players in front of it.


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Sauce Castieaux
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
Im not ready to move on from him but honestly a ringing endorsement from Marshall is not something we should be hanging our hats on. Dude was quick to trash the team/Payton after he was let go and quite frankly has been unhinged his whole career.

I think Thomas is capable of getting it together. But to act like this is not becoming a problem is a bit naive.

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TIGERSby10
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I think Thomas is capable of getting it together. But to act like this is not becoming a problem is a bit naive.


Agree 100%. It's one thing to be confident or even a little cocky when you are talented, but it's a whole other story when you are punching teammates because they made a great play on "Can't guard Mike".

Let's remember how unstoppable Jimmy Graham was in New Orleans, but he looked like shite anywhere else. Brandon Cooks was a legit WR1 here, but looks horrible elsewhere. I'm not saying Thomas wouldn't be good somewhere else, but Brees's precision accuracy also helps Thomas's talent. There are many receivers out there (without a bad attitude) that Brees can make look great.


BreesyInBigEasy
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Let's remember how unstoppable Jimmy Graham was in New Orleans


He had a major injury his first season out of here

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I'm not saying Thomas wouldn't be good somewhere else, but Brees's precision accuracy also helps Thomas's talent.


Of course, but Thomas actually put up better numbers with Bridgewater. They compliment each other perfectly

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There are many receivers out there (without a bad attitude) that Brees can make look great.


We haven’t had a receiver under Brees come close to Thomas and that’s with many of those guys playing with prime Brees. He’s arguably the best receiver in the nfl


MONROE
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
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agree that if somebody is a constant cancer in the locker room then it’s not good for the team. Thomas hasn’t been that though.


It’s looking more and more like this is false with the trainer incidents and such. Then look at the “bet” tweet he sent, dude is all about himself and people are just now having enough of it ala Antonio Brown


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The Melt
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
Didn't you basically start the same thread yesterday and didn't it get downvoted into oblivion? You tweaked the language slightly but it boils down to you wanting everyone to give preferential treatment to a privileged millionaire athlete that is showing more and more that he is a shitty person, teammate, and coworker. There is no excuse for this type of behavior. Best at his position nonetheless, he should be held to a higher standard, not lower. He is paid well to help his team win and his actions lately have been the opposite of that.

Post Defending Thomas Yesterday

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I know this is hard for people to grasp but his attitude is a huge part of why he is a great player. We have heard comments in the past about how he is always 100% in practice. He’s an extremely competitive guy who doesn’t know what it’s like to lose. It’s clear how competitive he is and that’s also what we love about him as fans.

I think he truly wants to win and help the team. I don’t doubt his commitment but I’m sure he’s been emotional not being on the field. I trust Payton will address this properly and Thomas will get back on track. I would not even consider trading him at this point like some are suggesting. I’m confident this suspension will get through to him. Payton and the team leaders will get him back in line.

This team can’t win a super bowl without Thomas. I expect him to come out and ball out after the bye. Then all will be well again.


LSUtiger89
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I agree. He’s probably pretty frustrated with having to sit out those games which he’s never had to do much of.


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Solo Cam
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
I hate to be this guy but this isn’t a Super Bowl team. Maybe they catch fire late and stay healthy but you need to start thinking about the future eventually

If Thomas is punching teammates, yelling at trainer and coaches then get his arse out of that lockerroom.

His value has never been higher. You might be able to parlay him into your next franchise QB.

Say you send him to the Dolphins for their 2 first rounders or maybe a first and a second.

Use that capital with our picks and go get Trevor Lawrence or Justin fields.

shite imagine if the Dolphins end up with the 1st and 9th pick

You could get Lawrence and Chase
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WMTigerFAN
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
We're obviously at a transition point as a franchise, and if a Super Bowl run does not appear imminent I would definitely look at what positions are replenishable, and what assets at those positions could be moved for draft capital that might allow a move to a spot where a franchise QB could be available. A trade of Thomas to the Bengals or Jets might be a move worth making in that circumstance, regardless of the current conflict between Thomas and the coaches. Davenport is another asset to consider and might even be packaged, but beyond that I'm not sure how many front liners would fit the bill.


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yimbeaux
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
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You do realize the saints can’t win a super bowl without Thomas right?


lol, this team isn't capable of winning a super bowl. Time to face facts, this thing is going to have to be blown up to start over sooner as opposed to later


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tigersquad89
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Member since Oct 2014
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
You think I care about getting downvoted by a bunch of irrational idiots that don’t want this team to win a super bowl? People like you who are cheering for people to fail for not sharing your politics are pretty pathetic.

I’m a fan of the saints. I want them to win another super bowl before Brees retires. They have no chance of doing that without Thomas.

I don’t agree with a lot of the things Thomas says politically but I don’t really give a shite because I only care about the product on the field.
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Big Sway
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
Why do all great receivers turn into prima Donna idiots?


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The Melt
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Member since Apr 2018
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
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You think I care about getting downvoted by a bunch of irrational idiots that don’t want this team to win a super bowl? People like you who are cheering for people to fail for not sharing your politics are pretty pathetic.

I’m a fan of the saints. I want them to win another super bowl before Brees retires. They have no chance of doing that without Thomas.


Dude, politics has nothing to do with the stories coming out about how shitty this guy's attitude and actions are.

As to the winning the Superbowl, Thomas may become, if he isn't already, so divisive that he harms the team more than helps. It's a damn shame you are willing to sell your soul and morals (if you had any to start) for a damn sports championship. It appears Thomas is against everything we want our role models and champions to be. There is no justification or his actions/attitude and it's pretty low of you to give a pass to someone being shitty to others in hopes of a Superbowl.


tigersquad89
LSU Fan
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
Yeah because being competitive is a problem. How soft do you have to be to have a problem with a guy being super competitive. I for one, will take that guy every day of the week. Again, look at how MJ was. Why was he the way he was? Because he was extremely competitive. Nobody has one problem with how Jordan was.

And let’s stop acting like politics have nothing to do with this. 99% of your posts on here are about politics. For the record, I agree with your politics. I’m just not willing to bash somebody for not agreeing.

And as for the selling my soul comment. What has thomas done that makes him this terrible person? He has had zero legal issues. We have seen videos of him doing charity work. The guy literally only has one focus and that’s football.
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MONROE
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
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Yeah because being competitive is a problem.


This has zero to do with being competitive. He’s punching teammates in the locker room and being an a-hole to the staff. He follows his suspension up by saying “bet” on Twitter which is the equivalent of saying y’all are all wrong and I’m right. He’s a problem, time to get what we can for him. This team isn’t winning the super bowl with or without him.


Mr. Hangover
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
After your 12th birthday, were you ever on an athletic team before? Get your fricking head out of the sand man. MT could absolutely destroy team chemistry if he hasn’t already



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Qbert Jones
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
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He follows his suspension up by saying “bet” on Twitter which is the equivalent of saying y’all are all wrong and I’m right.


That's another thing - his sheer inability to accept accountability. Even Malcolm Jenkins said that Thomas made a mistake and crossed the line. So for Thomas to try to play the victim card is just laughable.


RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
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re: For the fans saying cut or trade thomas
Our fanbase although passionate and loud def isn’t known for its intelligence. There’s always some idiot saying cut brees, fire Payton, trade Kamara, trade or cut Thomas. The saints aren’t even thinking about cutting or trading Thomas and I’m not sure anyone would even understand the cap consequences of doing so. With that being said Thomas needs to grow up. He is very well liked off the field. Hes quiet and humble and kind from all reports. He is one of the biggest competitors we’ve ever had and unfortunately that is coming with some headaches. Fighting teammates isn’t new. Every team has fights every year. The back talk to the coaches and his ridiculous twitter wars are what i would like to see change.
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