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re: Easy cut/trade decisions for 2023 season

Posted on 2/22/23 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 5:53 pm to
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Vannett is on the Giants


Yikes.. Sorry..
Posted by Neilfish
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:30 pm to
AK - easy, he’ll be in jail
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:04 pm to
Thomas. Kamara. Lattimore. Cam Jordan, Demario Davis. Tyrann, Onyemata, Peat, Ceasar Ruiz, Jameis, Lutz, Maye, Dennis Allen (fire), Olave (trade)
Posted by moock blackjack
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:01 pm to
Davenport
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:05 am to
I’m pretty sure we can just decide not to resign or tag him. He’s a free agent.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:07 am to
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Peat


Peat tore a pec reading this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:25 am to
I think Peat is the only rational one, and that requires shitting on our 2024 cap.

You're going to see lots of restructures pushing money to future years just to get under the cap, which hamstrings us in those future years and makes us have this same discussion in 365 days.

If we try to clear enough space to sign a major QB?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:32 am to
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AK - easy, he’ll be in jail

Don’t think he sees jail time, he punched the guy but wasn’t one of the 2 people kicking the guy in the head. But for arguments sake, him going to jail could actually help the Saints as long as he’s still under contract.

If they cut him, they have to absorb any deferred bonus funds already paid. So, looking at $15.3M cap hit.

If in jail, saints get to have him suspended under the commissioner exempt list. They may still have a hit for the current year bonus money, approx $5M; but won’t owe any of his salary, performance bonuses, and won’t have to eat the future deferred bonuses
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10943 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:02 am to
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I think Turner is still on a rookie contract. He's not going anywhere.


Yeah, he's got 2 years left. $3.4M and $3.98M in cap space. He's not even in the top 60 paid Edge Rushers. Its worth waiting to see if a switch flips.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:04 am to
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Peat


I still don't understand why they signed him to such a deal when they did.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:56 am to
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I still don't understand why they signed him to such a deal when they did.



Don't feel alone, b/c nobody else on this board does either
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:48 am to
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Don't feel alone, b/c nobody else on this board does either


One of the only times everyone here thought the same thing
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:32 pm to
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You're going to see lots of restructures pushing money to future years just to get under the cap, which hamstrings us in those future years and makes us have this same discussion in 365 days.



This is one of the reasons I like Hooker so much. Assuming he is there in the 3rd round, you can lock him up on a rookie deal and go into '23 with him as a 25 yr old rookie starter and Hill the backup. Obviously if he kills it, you have your QB1 moving forward under a rookie deal. If he is serviceable (his floor imo), you have a backup under a rookie deal and go after QB1 in the '24 draft. You would be an NFL rarity which is cash rich at the QB position for the near future.

Of course this is all contingent on Hooker being at worst, an NFL backup level QB. If he totally shits the bed, you whiffed on a 3rd round pick and likely lost enough games for it to be a de facto tank year giving you a top 10 pick. Not the worst thing long term for this team in its current state.
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6453 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Just like Julius Caesar, beware the Ides of March MFer!


I'm not sure he would get the reference though.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5552 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:35 pm to
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still don't understand why they signed him to such a deal when they did.


Only reason for the extension was he was a 1st round pick and they didn’t want to admit it was a failed pick. It was pure optics and should tell you the incompetence of the front office.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13959 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:54 pm to
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Only reason for the extension was he was a 1st round pick and they didn’t want to admit it was a failed pick. It was pure optics and should tell you the incompetence of the front office.


I didn’t like the contract, thought it was way too much.
But I think their reasoning was our normal LT is hurt every year and Peat can slide to LT and be competent. He has in the past when he was healthy.
That’s what they were paying for.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23411 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:13 pm to
The whole fricking system.....we need to burn it and rebuild it.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7825 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:12 pm to
It was a terrible idea but this is the reason

Number 1) We drafted him bc Payton is tight w Stanford coach David Shaw. There are pre and post draft articles that point towards this being the key reason.

2) Sean Payton loves to do outside the box shite in an attempt to be cerebral and separate himself from a crowd.

The entire process of drafting peat and resigning him to a bullshite deal was born of Payton’s arrogance and want to appear like the smartest guy in the room

It’s the same reason why we didn’t really target lsu players under Miles or Coach O. He sees those guys as beneath him and thought he would have to coach up the LSU players too much once they got to the NFL.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
3048 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:13 pm to
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I didn’t like the contract, thought it was way too much. But I think their reasoning was our normal LT is hurt every year and Peat can slide to LT and be competent. He has in the past when he was healthy. That’s what they were paying for.


Add this to the fact that at the time we were contending for a Super Bowl and protecting Brees was critical.
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