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re: Drew’s Apology

Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:30 am to
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12287 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:30 am to
No drew, you don’t need to do less talking. In fact, you should be one of the few that is doing more talking. This whole thing saddens me. When society determines that Drew Brees is on the wrong side of a moral issue, then society has completely lost its collective mind.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
8455 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:33 am to
Caved
Posted by Macho King Savage
Member since Apr 2020
39 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:34 am to
It doesn't matter at this point; the black community is going to call it a shallow/fake apology.

Exhibit A:

quote:

Now You just got yourself looking like a whole clown out here dude?????????
#KeepThatFakeApology
#SouthLouisianaAintBuyingIt


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Nobody buying that, he wouldn't have been sorry if they whole world didn't criticize him for his comments, the black community not accepting that dude
Posted by Macho King Savage
Member since Apr 2020
39 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:37 am to
Posted by Les Claypool
Member since Jul 2019
53 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:39 am to
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What mistake?


In my opinion, his mistake was not acknowledging or being sympathetic to the cause that some of his teammates are supporting right now, especially giving the current situation. He should have realized the flag means different things to different people. Being the leader and public figure that he is, he should have had a little more finesse answering the question. If he would have said something like “I will not kneel. I will stand, but I support my teammates who kneel because they’re feelings for the flag may be different than mine,” he would would have avoided this whole situation. Of course this is what he tried to do in his additional text to ESPN.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:40 am to
frick this gay earth. It’s absurd he had to explain himself.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108337 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:43 am to
He made it worse. When will idiots realize it only gets worse when you bend the knee?
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119779 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:44 am to
It’s only going to get worse. Buckle up.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88973 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:48 am to
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Caved




yep.



for calling out morons who won't do the protest du jour on their own time or own dime.

Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53500 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:54 am to
IMHO, Drew got the word that he was either going to apologize and grovel or he would lose his sports broadcasting career.

Drew apologized to save his post-football broadcasting career. Just my humble opinion.
Posted by emt007
Member since Aug 2017
372 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Maybe if you looked up the term you'd better understand things.


"White Privilege

Noun

inherent advantages possessed by a white person on the basis of their race in a society characterized by racial inequality and injustice."

Definitions from Oxford Languages


I can 100% say I have never had any advantages in life only because I am fricking white. I have simply worked for everything I own. In fact, I have worked under several black men before meaning they were my superior at that time. So please take your one-track-minded bullshite somewhere else. I guess those black men that I worked under got the "white privilege" thing that everyone throws around because they were pretty high up on the board and successful in life. Does white privilege exist, I'm sure it does in some situations (which is stupid), but to call out "Drew and most poster on this board" and say they are a product of it is completely asinine.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127846 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:56 am to
quote:

In my opinion, his mistake was not acknowledging or being sympathetic to the cause that some of his teammates are supporting right now, especially giving the current situation. He should have realized the flag means different things to different people. Being the leader and public figure that he is, he should have had a little more finesse answering the question. If he would have said something like “I will not kneel. I will stand, but I support my teammates who kneel because they’re feelings for the flag may be different than mine,” he would would have avoided this whole situation. Of course this is what he tried to do in his additional text to ESPN.




You know what? This is fair. I respect your opinion.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34096 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:01 am to
I honestly have lost a lot of respect for Brees. He said NOTHING objectively racist or prejudicial. And whether you agree or disagree with his opinion is WHOLLY irrelevant to the discussion. I would hope the one thing upon which we could ALL agree is that as an American and human being he is entitled to his opinion and beliefs.

Drew had the ULTIMATE leverage to strike a blow to today's pathetic "cancel culture." One that doesn't care, AT ALL, about trying to "effect change." It only cares about getting the result it ultimately got, capitulation and an apology. The culture's goals are power disguised as a "moral imperative."

At this point in his career the New Orleans Saints need Drew Brees FAR more than Drew Brees needs the Saints. Even if Brees never takes another snap for the Saints his legacy is cemented. He is the undisputed best player in franchise history. He is (while not the only) the single BIGGEST reason this franchise went from 40 years of complete irrelevance and failure to a Super Bowl champion and nearly 15 years of continued relevance and success. His 15 years with the Saints is the greatest period of success in the history of the organization. He has set numerous NFL records. He has won a championship. He will be a first ballot HOFer and go down as one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game. He has earned financial security for the rest of he and his family's lives. There is literally nothing left for him to accomplish on the football field except a second world's championship.

He could have remained secure in his beliefs. NOT APOLOGIZED. All while recognizing and acknowledging his teammates and others may not agree with that opinion (which is, or at least use to be, COMPLETELY ok). Had his teammates forced him out it would not have made a difference because everything noted above has already taken place. The only thing he would have lost is the 2020 season...which by all accounts was likely to be his last, regardless.

He could have set a standard that he wasn't going to be forced to apologize for a "wrong" he did not commit or for simply just having an opinion that other's may have disagreed with. Instead, he just added another layer of precedence to the notion that diversity of THOUGHT is not tolerated in the US and that any opinion/belief which the most vocal among us disagrees with DEMANDS immediate apology and/or retribution.

The average guy down the street working to make ends meet to help provide for his family can't afford to lose his job just because he happens to have the "wrong" opinion. So he either remains silent or apologizes for a "wrong" he didn't commit. Brees wasn't in that position. Yet, he acquiesced to the angry mob who will be on to the next target tomorrow.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288309 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:04 am to
The apology is for those people you just screen shotted. It's for teammates. They are the only people I care about with how they take it. They actually have to interact and see the guy face to face every day in person.

The internet is quite bold when you can hide behind a keyboard. It's easy to say shite to people. Brees could show up to a protest tonight and everyone would be like "oh shite thats Drew Brees", and the energy towards him changes at the snap of the finger, just like that
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:52 am to
quote:


In my opinion, his mistake was not acknowledging or being sympathetic to the cause that some of his teammates are supporting right now, especially giving the current situation. He should have realized the flag means different things to different people. Being the leader and public figure that he is, he should have had a little more finesse answering the question. If he would have said something like “I will not kneel. I will stand, but I support my teammates who kneel because they’re feelings for the flag may be different than mine,” he would would have avoided this whole situation. Of course this is what he tried to do in his additional text to ESPN.


This. I love drew but he messed this up. There are a lot of players that may have had incidents in their life or to their families that they feel they need some way to speak up about. When Brees made those comments it came off as "your struggles don't matter, you are doing it wrong." Whether he meant it that way or not. Even if he was misunderstood, that is the way it came off.

You just don't do things like that to your teammates. You support them in public and if you want to have a conversation with them about the subject do it off the camera. To say that in the national media made players he played with feel betrayed.

Hopefully his apology will heal those relationships. I honestly don't think he meant it that way, but jeez man it came off so insensitive.
Posted by Broken Ear Glen
Baton Roog
Member since Mar 2010
1320 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:04 am to
quote:

He is a savvy business guy

Idk if I'd agree there. Read this and your opinion may change. LINK
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2478 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:12 am to
As a parent, you don't give the kid a popsicle when they throw a fit for it. The same applies to adults. Drew has lived an exemplary life by every account. If the black players in the NFL would've voted for their favorite white player based on overall class and integrity, Drew would've been in the top-5. Now the kids scream and Drew gives them the popsicle. As with kids, adults don't learn to modify their behavior by others capitulation, they learn by adults living/standing on integrity and consistency. Unfortunately Drew just made this situation worse and he doesn't deserve this heat based on how he's lived.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:20 am to
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Unfortunately Drew just made this situation worse and he doesn't deserve this heat based on how he's lived.

Maybe, or he did what any father with a sick child would do.

He deflected this unnecessary venom away from his family to redirect his efforts to his family.

I will not be surprised that when his child is in better health and this controversy diminishes, that Drew calls a press conference and retires.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2478 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:30 am to
Drew Brees has no reason to cut and run based on any of this!

Standing for equality doesn't mean that you have to cower to people with different world views. Drew's life and actions speak louder than Malcom Jenkins' twitter voice. I believe Jenkins truly believes what he said. It was incumbent upon him to disagree with Drew while measuring his words against what he knows about Drew Brees, the man. I think MT13 is just a troublemaker.
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