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Posted on 2/20/16 at 7:37 am to Brandincookem
Jack is a freak. If he wanted to play rb, he could probably be the top rb in this draft. Best athlete on Defense in the entire draft. Jack and Hargreaves are the two can't miss defenders in this draft in my opinion. They will start and make an impact from day one. Plenty of solid d lineman, but Jack and Hargreaves are way ahead of their respective groups. Jack is easily the top lb in coverage as well.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:19 am to L.A.
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BUT will miss his first year. I believe that's the conventional wisdom right now.
I don't think it's expected for him to miss year at all
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:27 am to Chad504boy
It use to be a given but not any more.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:48 am to easy money
Like no man I seriously do not see how this guy is not rated #1. I don't care if other people had torn ACL's and bounced back, Jaylon smith is not those other guys . He could easily be Adrian Peterson or Marcus Lattimore, could go either way.
First and foremost Jack is gonna be kueclky like in coverage but he's faster. Two, he is physical, mean, and packs a punch when he hits, and brings the intensity we do not have. How is this not a no brainier? Especially the coverage part
Take the healthy one, with our medical staff I do not believe we would maximize the talents of Jaylon Smith so please god let the not do stupid saints shite and draft Jack
We'll waste 2 seasons of his career before he can play here
On top of all that with our bad luck at RB, hell you could throw Jack back there for a few carries and save a roster spot for a few weeks if injury piles up.
First and foremost Jack is gonna be kueclky like in coverage but he's faster. Two, he is physical, mean, and packs a punch when he hits, and brings the intensity we do not have. How is this not a no brainier? Especially the coverage part
Take the healthy one, with our medical staff I do not believe we would maximize the talents of Jaylon Smith so please god let the not do stupid saints shite and draft Jack
We'll waste 2 seasons of his career before he can play here
On top of all that with our bad luck at RB, hell you could throw Jack back there for a few carries and save a roster spot for a few weeks if injury piles up.
This post was edited on 2/20/16 at 8:52 am
Posted on 2/20/16 at 9:01 am to L.A.
i'd rather see the Saints take a D-lineman at #12 than Smith. I think they need more help at D-line than anywhere on the team.. just my opinion.
if Myles Jack is there by some weird stroke of luck though... hell yeah take him!
but say the Saints added a free agent D-line guy in free agency who is a starter caliber player... then maybe you go in different direction with your 1st pick? I don't know I just think if they loaded up on the D-line some problems would definitely go away on defense. The depth there last year was so painfully obvious as to why the pass rush wasn't all that good.
if Myles Jack is there by some weird stroke of luck though... hell yeah take him!
but say the Saints added a free agent D-line guy in free agency who is a starter caliber player... then maybe you go in different direction with your 1st pick? I don't know I just think if they loaded up on the D-line some problems would definitely go away on defense. The depth there last year was so painfully obvious as to why the pass rush wasn't all that good.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 9:25 am to Brandincookem
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Can't shed blocks
hell no draft Myles Jack, I don't even see how that dude is rated higher at this point
Doesn't mean he can't learn or get better. He's shown the ability before. Jaylon Smith is an incredible player. One weakness is not enough to undo the EVERYTHING ELSE he does at a high level.
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Besides, Myles Jack probably won't even be available anyway.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 1:23 pm to Chad504boy
I mean ACL and MCL?
Maybe he's ready in September, but he's gonna miss camp.
I would go by what Dr. Andrews says, but I doubt I'd pull the trigger at 12.
Maybe he's ready in September, but he's gonna miss camp.
I would go by what Dr. Andrews says, but I doubt I'd pull the trigger at 12.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 2:41 pm to N2cars
I think the Saints should be building for 2017 when they will be able to be more aggressive in free agency. I don't care when he'll be good to go, as long as they expect a 100% recovery this is my guy.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 3:30 pm to L.A.
He has top 5 talent
So if he checks out heathy he won't be there
If he will miss some time the Saints prob will pass anyway
So if he checks out heathy he won't be there
If he will miss some time the Saints prob will pass anyway
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:57 am to LooseCannon22282
Yeah unless Jack has some character concerns we don't know about yet, there's no way he is falling to 12.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:17 am to easy money
Ther's no way Jack is there at 12, unless he has some crazy red flags with conduct or medical issue unveiled in the next couple of months. He's great, but unless we trade up Jack is not going to be an option, so everyone calm down on that.
Jaylon Smith falling to the Saints would be amazing, having him and Anthony as every down LBs would do a lot for our defense. We haven't had a dominant LB core in a very long time, and Smith would be the #1 LB in this draft if he hadn't got hurt. He's my #1 hope in the draft, hopefully we could see him as a PUP list guy back after 6 games next season. When drafting we need to look beyond year 1, this guy could be a starter alongside Anthony (Hopefully Kikaha as well) for the better part of a decade. I still see LB as more important a need than any spot on the secondary, close second to DTackle, but that position is much deeper in this draft.
Jaylon Smith falling to the Saints would be amazing, having him and Anthony as every down LBs would do a lot for our defense. We haven't had a dominant LB core in a very long time, and Smith would be the #1 LB in this draft if he hadn't got hurt. He's my #1 hope in the draft, hopefully we could see him as a PUP list guy back after 6 games next season. When drafting we need to look beyond year 1, this guy could be a starter alongside Anthony (Hopefully Kikaha as well) for the better part of a decade. I still see LB as more important a need than any spot on the secondary, close second to DTackle, but that position is much deeper in this draft.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:29 pm to MannyG
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I think the Saints should be building for 2017 when they will be able to be more aggressive in free agency. I don't care when he'll be good to go, as long as they expect a 100% recovery this is my guy.
I agree
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:31 pm to L.A.
Debo Jones as good if not better!
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:35 pm to GMoney2600
I agree that DL trumps LB for need but this is a historically deep DL class, especially DT. Mayock is saying sumpin like 19 DL with 1st round grades.
At #47 you might get someone like Billings, Adolphus Washington, Nassib, or Kenny Clark. All great value for that spot IMO
At #47 you might get someone like Billings, Adolphus Washington, Nassib, or Kenny Clark. All great value for that spot IMO
Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:38 pm to Brandincookem
I'd take Jaylon Smith at 1 if I could.
When my life is really hitting on all cylinders I often think about a world where the Saints have Anthony and Smith playing next to each other.
It's always pretty much the greatest track my life could ever take, and as such I see little chance it happens. But if it somehow does, holy shite.
When my life is really hitting on all cylinders I often think about a world where the Saints have Anthony and Smith playing next to each other.
It's always pretty much the greatest track my life could ever take, and as such I see little chance it happens. But if it somehow does, holy shite.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:20 am to LisbethSalander
Mike D has said if not for getting hurt Smith would have been a top 3 pick. I would be tickled to death with either Smith or Jack but I don't think either will be there at 12.
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