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Different camera angle of Brees' sack for Safety (pics of holding added on pg2)
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:11 am
Sorry if already posted...
I was one of those fans that was sure it wasn't a sack for Safety and that Brees was never down on the ground while being tackled, that he was on top of the defender, but I just saw this pic.
He was down in the end-zone...
I was one of those fans that was sure it wasn't a sack for Safety and that Brees was never down on the ground while being tackled, that he was on top of the defender, but I just saw this pic.
He was down in the end-zone...
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:13 am to cdaniel76
Oh, this picture sure proves that his knees aren't down.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:16 am to Chad504boy
well, I'd rather a safety there than a fumble. That was not a call I was pissed at the fake refs about.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:16 am to cdaniel76
He can be down in the end zone and it still not be a safety if he can get the entire football out beyond the goal line. It's where the ball is at the time he's ruled down.
With that said, from this angle, it looks like the ball is even with his shoulders and in fact, not beyond the goal line, so the call on the field was correct.
With that said, from this angle, it looks like the ball is even with his shoulders and in fact, not beyond the goal line, so the call on the field was correct.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:17 am to Lafayette VooDoo
His forward progress was at the line of scrimmage when he took the snap.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:44 am to BTRDD
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Oh, this picture sure proves that his knees aren't down.
No, but doesn't matter being his forearm is down which is the same as a knee down.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:48 am to BTRDD
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Oh, this picture sure proves that his knees aren't down.
How about his forearm?
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:54 am to cdaniel76
Not the call I am angry about.
I am pissed off about the Pierre Thomas touchdown that was called back.
There also was major holding on the long run by Charles.
I am pissed off about the Pierre Thomas touchdown that was called back.
There also was major holding on the long run by Charles.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:57 am to Lafayette VooDoo
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He can be down in the end zone and it still not be a safety if he can get the entire football out beyond the goal line.
Well that is wrong. He only needs a small portion out of the end-zone. It is the exact opposite of a TD, same as only the tip needs to get in.
You are reminding me of the people sitting near me at the game, they didn't know the rules either.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:00 am to BTRDD
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Oh, this picture sure proves that his knees aren't down.
Damn, if only the refs derped this derp, the Saints would have derped.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:02 am to TexasTiger1185
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Well that is wrong. He only needs a small portion out of the end-zone. It is the exact opposite of a TD, same as only the tip needs to get in.
What are you talking about? You make'm no sense'm. I am pretty sure the entire ball must be out of the end zone.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:05 am to Scrowe
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Oh, this picture sure proves that his knees aren't down.
No, but doesn't matter being his forearm is down which is the same as a knee down.
Yeah, the elbow is down. That shows me it's a safety.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:09 am to Jester
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What are you talking about? You make'm no sense'm. I am pretty sure the entire ball must be out of the end zone.
Think about it this way, when you are going for a first down do you have to get the entire ball across the first down marker? No, just the tip, LOS is at the most forward position of the football. If the ball comes 1" out of the endzone, that is the spot, even if the rest of the ball is in the end-zone.
It was still a safety, but the rule is pretty clear.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:11 am to TexasTiger1185
thank goodness it was a safety cause it would have been a fumble the other way around
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:17 am to TexasTiger1185
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Think about it this way, when you are going for a first down do you have to get the entire ball across the first down marker? No, just the tip, LOS is at the most forward position of the football. If the ball comes 1" out of the endzone, that is the spot, even if the rest of the ball is in the end-zone.
I think you are combining rules to make something up that agrees with you.
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It was still a safety, but the rule is pretty clear.
Okay, post the rule and prove it.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:20 am to Jester
Sorry, Hoss, you are are 100% wrong:
Former Vice President of Officiating (NFL)
Former Vice President of Officiating (NFL)
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Seahawks at Giants
THE SITUATION: The Giants had the ball, first-and-10 at the New York 5-yard line with 7:07 left in the third quarter. The score was tied 14-14.
THE PLAY: Giants running back D.J. Ware was tackled in the end zone by Seattle’s Anthony Hargrove for a safety. The replay assistant initiated a review to see if the runner broke the plane, and the play was upheld.
MY TAKE: I think this is the first time that the ruling of a safety resulted in the replay official initiating a review. This is the new rule that involves all plays that are ruled a score, including safeties, field goals and extra-point attempts. Once a score is ruled, the replay official has to confirm that the ruling was right or initiate a review by the referee.
In order for this not to be a safety, the entire ball must get out into the field of play. If any part of the ball is still over the goal line, then it would be a safety. It was very hard to tell in replay whether that happened. There was clearly not enough evidence to overturn the call of a safety.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:20 am to Jester
whatever
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:24 am to TexasTiger1185
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If the ball comes 1" out of the endzone, that is the spot, even if the rest of the ball is in the end-zone.
Hahaha, no.
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:53 am to Jester
I'd say that's a BOOM.
But can someone tell me how there wasn't a hold on the 91 yard TD? I was in shock that it wasn't called back.
But can someone tell me how there wasn't a hold on the 91 yard TD? I was in shock that it wasn't called back.
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