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Derek Carr has informed the raiders that he’s refusing a trade anywhere.

Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:11 pm
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Sources: #Raiders QB Derek Carr has informed the team he won’t accept a trade to the #Saints  or any other team. The team is expected to release him and he’ll be a top free agent.


This is actually good news because if we do get him it will cost us nothing when they cut him. But if he signs with the saints I guarantee we are getting fined for tampering.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:13 pm to
Guess somebody else posted after me too but yeah.
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:18 pm to
He’s going to sign with us. We played the Raiders like a fiddle. And Carr fricked over like the Raiders in the process.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:18 pm to
Saints sign carr without giving up a pick.
Saints are deemed as tampering.
Saints lose 1st round pick
Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:20 pm to
It isn't tampering if the raiders knowingly allowed it. Tampering means they didn't know about it. See how that works?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:23 pm to
I'm sure the raiders' permission was to discuss him coming in a trade. If the talk turned into signing him without a trade, I can see how that could be deemed tampering.

I don't think this is what happened though... I think carr wants to see if he can do better than us
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
48737 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Saints sign carr without giving up a pick.
Saints are deemed as tampering.
Saints lose 1st round pick
I know you’re joking, but if the Saints do sign Carr as a FA, they played it perfectly. It gets released that Saints / Raiders have pretty much agreed to terms and its in Carr’s court. He declines any trade, which is his right. Saints in no way can be deemed as tampering and don’t lose compensation.

Wait, never mind…


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:26 pm to
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If the talk turned into signing him after a trade, I can see how that could be deemed tampering.

I mean unless they have evidence we literally argued he should decline the trade, the conversation was the same.

He was getting a new contract via trade or free agency. I don't imagine there would be much of a difference how we acquired him.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34954 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:28 pm to
I felt like this was how it was always going to go down.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12805 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
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This is actually good news because if we do get him it will cost us nothing when they cut him. But if he signs with the saints I guarantee we are getting fined for tampering.


He was granted a visit.

Wont cost a pick but the price tags may be increasing a little bit. We will see.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17197 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:32 pm to
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It isn't tampering if the raiders knowingly allowed it. Tampering means they didn't know about it. See how that works?



Roger Goodall gets off on screwing the Saints. See how that works.
Posted by Cenlabration
The Ville of Pine
Member since Apr 2021
1552 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:48 pm to
There's going to be at least one or two teams interested in him. This is a smart move by Carr.
If I was Carolina, Atlanta or Tampa, I would try and start a bidding war just to frick with us.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:49 pm to
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If I was Carolina, Atlanta or Tampa, I would try and start a bidding war just to frick with us.

Jets
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
48737 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:53 pm to
If the Jets don’t get Rodgers, they’ll probably throw the bank at Carr.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21273 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 5:04 pm to
Probably visited with his wife, took a long close look around the Franchise AND the City then decided to explore other potential opportunities.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14492 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 5:54 pm to
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It isn't tampering if the raiders knowingly allowed it. Tampering means they didn't know about it. See how that works?

You don't seem to get it. This guy spins whatever he wants concerning the Saints from faking injuries, Covid-19 violations, bountygate thousands of pages reduced to one page of chicken scratch, and the no call.

Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:01 pm to
Roger Goodell doesn't understand laws. Remember when the old commissioner came in and told Goodell he couldnt go after the Saints to the degree he wanted to initially and reversed some of his rulings?
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:24 pm to
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If I was Carolina, Atlanta or Tampa, I would try and start a bidding war just to frick with us.

If I was the Saints I would let him walk at that point. He’s not a franchise quarterback.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23990 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:40 am to
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quote:

If I was Carolina, Atlanta or Tampa, I would try and start a bidding war just to frick with us.


If I was the Saints I would let him walk at that point. He’s not a franchise quarterback.
The problem is, he's probably the NFC South champ next year. I'd prefer that to be here.

Looking at the Saints objectively, it's still a good spot for a QB.
We still have an O line, Kamara and Thomas (if he can unbreak himself), defense still has Demario and Lattimore and some solid linemen. You move Cousins or Stafford here, we'd win... I think Carr fits that too.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19626 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:52 pm to
We were his first recruiting visit. He was never going to give up his leverage and miss out on a new contract. I think it speaks volumes that we were the only team that he would meet with, and he spent an extra day here.
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