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Dennis Allen doesn’t have time to plan for the future…

Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:44 am
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
13086 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:44 am
He has another shitty year he will be canned. Derek Carr is most likely coming to town folks, you better get used to the idea.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11968 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:46 am to
I want to see how much of his contract the Raiders will be responsible for

But there’s no denying the second he signs we have the best QB in the division by a mile
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54205 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:47 am to
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This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 8:52 am
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
13086 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:48 am to
Not even close. I look forward to ruling the NFC South again
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
13086 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:49 am to
No, but do you know football and know how it actually works? If you lose games you lose your job. I don’t think I have to have a conversation with him to understand that. Do you?

Edit: see you deleted your post.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 8:54 am
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54205 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:53 am to
quote:

No, but do you know football and know how it actually works? If you lose games you lose your job. I don’t think I have to have a conversation with him to understand that. Do you?


I misread your post while multitasking. I thought you said "Dennis Allen doesn't have a plan for the future". I apologize and have edited my dumb dumb post
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
13086 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:54 am to
All good man
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28272 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Derek Carr is most likely coming to town folks

if it means no Jameis and/or Dalton, i'm all for it...
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59395 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I want to see how much of his contract the Raiders will be responsible for

Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18381 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Dennis Allen doesn’t have time to plan for the future…


A Headcoach does the best with who is currently on the team and plans for their strengths.

It's up to the General Manager to project into the future and take in feedback from the Head Coach as to what areas could use some change.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34954 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:55 am to
quote:

want to see how much of his contract the Raiders will be responsible for

But there’s no denying the second he signs we have the best QB in the division by a mile


I honestly don't think it will end up being much.

If the saints were smart, they would stall till the raiders release him so they can sign him outright.

Like carr as a player but not at 40 mil.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
10123 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:21 am to
I don’t put the Carr chase on Allen. It’s Loomis’ job to plan for the future and make sure short-term goals don’t interfere with long-term goals.

If your franchise is actively trying to win a Super Bowl at some point, every decision of this magnitude should come with the question “Will this help us win the Super Bowl either now or in the future?” If the answer is no to both parts of that question, why do it? If eventually winning the Super Bowl isn’t part of the calculus, then it’s just about people protecting their jobs.

Derek Carr is not going to help the Saints win a Super Bowl, next year or beyond. So why waste resources? Is Loomis also on the hot seat? I wouldn’t think so but this move seems more about trying to save somebody’s job than eventually winning a Super Bowl.

Bite the bullet, get the salary cap right, draft well, save future draft picks and look for the next quarterback who can help you eventually win a Super Bowl.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
8155 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:26 am to
I like Carr is we were a qb away from being a contender I would say go for it he is onl3 years younger then Dalton and going to cost 20 a year more... not worth it to plow through a 8 9 win season.
We need oline depth we need a rb and a saftey these are my 1st concerns
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
1468 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:29 am to
quote:

I want to see how much of his contract the Raiders will be responsible for


From what I’ve read, if he is traded….then he will only count $15mil towards the new teams’ cap.
Posted by southsidedell
Tucson, AZ
Member since Dec 2016
5757 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:38 am to
DA has no future. Not with this organization. He WILL fail again. Lieutenants and Generals my dudes.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 11:09 am to
quote:

If the saints were smart, they would stall till the raiders release him so they can sign him outright.

Like carr as a player but not at 40 mil.


He will cost more in the open market than he will if we trade for him imo

Once he hits open market, there are teams in a way better cap situation who can outbid us fully

The smartest thing we can do is trade for him to have him under contract with us, in our control, and then make adjustments based on our specific cap situation
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 11:12 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

From what I’ve read, if he is traded….then he will only count $15mil towards the new teams’ cap.


That’s false. If you trade for him and there’s no restructure, that team is on the hook for 120 million over the next three years.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10578 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

folks


FOLKS
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
13086 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Derek Carr is not going to help the Saints win a Super Bowl, next year or beyond. So why waste resources? Is Loomis also on the hot seat? I wouldn’t think so but this move seems more about trying to save somebody’s job than eventually winning a Super Bowl.


Have you seen the crop of NFC quarterbacks lately? The road to the Super Bowl right now through the NFC is the easiest its going to get in a while. And with Tom retiring the south is up for grabs right now so we need to take it. We need to take advantage right now. We have the defense, and I think we can get the pieces we need on offense together.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 2:15 pm
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