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Cumulative Saints PFF scores after Week 6

Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:42 am
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14108 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:42 am
The score listed next to the name is the combined scores from weeks 1-6. The score listed next to "Last week" is the combined scores from weeks 1-5.

-Drew Brees - 91.0
-Teddy Bridgewater - 70.1...Last week 67.4
-Taysom Hill - 73.3...Last week 74.1

-Alvin Kamara - 75.5...Last week 77.1
-Latavius Murray - 71.2...Last week 67.8
-Dwayne Washington - N/A

-Zach Line - 55.9...Last week 53.0

-Michael Thomas - 82.3...Last week 84.1
-Ted Ginn - 62.0...Last week 58.9
-Tre'Quan Smith - 68.5
-Austin Carr - N/A
-Deonte Harris - 63.3...Last week 64.9
-Lil'Jordan Humphries - 53.6...Last week 58.5

-Jared Cook - 54.5...Last week 52.1
-Josh Hill - 59.4...Last week 57.5

-Terron Armstead - 75.3...Last week 72.0
-Andrus Peat - 44.9...Last week 48.6
-Erik McCoy - 70.3...Last week 69.4
-Larry Warford - 67.4...Last week 65.3
-Ryan Ramczyk - 81.1...Last week 83.4

-Will Clapp - 38.4...Last week 41.0
-Patrick Omameh - 56.4...Last week 56.3
-Nick Easton - N/A
-Ethan Greenidge - N/A

-Sheldon Rankins - 58.2...Last week 67.8
-David Onyemata - 63.5...Last week 68.7
-Malcom Brown - 63.7...Last week 64.4
-Mario Edwards - 55.7...Last week 57.2
-Shy Tuttle - 66.9...Last week 67.9

-Cameron Jordan - 82.0...Last week 83.4
-Marcus Davenport - 75.5...Last week 77.1
-Trey Hendrickson - 66.8
-Carl Granderson - 42.0

-Demario Davis - 63.7...Last week 66.5
-A.J. Klein - 39.3...Last week 39.9
-Kiki Alonso - 62.2...Last week 50.5
-Craig Robertson - 60.0
-Ray Ray Armstrong - N/A
-Stephone Anthony - N/A

-Marshon Lattimore - 63.6...Last week 62.8
-Eli Apple - 75.4...Last week 73.0
-PJ Williams - 61.2...Last week 55.0
-Patrick Robinson - 38.0
-Ken Crawley - N/A
-Justin Hardee - N/A

-Marcus Williams - 90.2...Last week 89.4
-Vonn Bell - 65.8...Last week 66.8
-Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - 65.7...Last week 58.1
-Saquan Hampton - N/A
-J.T. Gray - N/A
Posted by CasanovaJones
Jackson, MS
Member since Oct 2019
73 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:46 am to
PFF makes no damn sense. Latt's numbers are retarded, Peat just can't be that bad, and Cam dropped with 2 sacks. Sorry, Eli aint playing better than Latt atm.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14108 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:47 am to
Scores that increased from Week 5 to Week 6
LB Kiko Alonso - 11.7 Looks like he's starting to come on
DB CGJ - 7.6 Starting to become a soild rotational player
CB PJ Williams - 6.2
RB Latavius Murray - 3.4 I thought he had a good game
LT Terron Armstead - 3.3
WR Ted Ginn - 3.1 Teddy might be getting more comfortable with him
FB Zach Line - 2.9 He has a really good score for a FB
QB Teddy 2 Gloves - 2.7
TE Jared Cook - 2.4 2 solid games in a row...great news
CB Eli Apple - 2.4 Having a great year
RG Larry Warford - 2.1
TE Josh Hill - 1.9 3 soild games in a row
OC Erik McCoy - 0.9
CB Marshon Lattimore - 0.8 His score doesn't reflect his play
FS Marcus Williams - 0.8 Top rated pff Safety after week 6
OL Patrick Omameh - 0.1

Scores that decreased from Week 5 to Week 6
DT Sheldon Rankins - 9.6
DT David Onyemata - 5.2
WR Lil'Jordan Humphrey - 4.9
LG Andrus Peat - 3.7
LB Demario Davis - 2.8
OL Will Clapp - 2.6 We can use a better 6th O-Lineman
RT Ryan Ramczyk - 2.3
WR Mike Thomas - 1.8
RB Alvin Kamara - 1.6
WR Deonte Harris - 1.6
DE Marcus Davenport - 1.6
DT Mario Edwards - 1.5
DE Cam Jordan - 1.4
DT Shy Tuttle - 1.0
SS Vonn Bell - 1.0
QB Taysom Hill - 0.8
DT Malcom Brown - 0.7
LB Aj Klein - 0.6 Allen needs to stop using him in pass coverage

I thought it was odd that all of our D-Line scores dropped.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Pelicanus
Member since Jun 2019
651 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:48 am to
I said last week PFF is garbage.

Jordan goes down two sacks.

Further proof they are dumbasses
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14108 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Sorry, Eli aint playing better than Latt atm.


Not right now, but Apple's entire season has been better. Lattimore was pretty bad for the 1st 3 games.

Both are looking like legit #1 & #2 CB's right now though. I'll take that.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:54 am to
quote:

PFF makes no damn sense. Latt's numbers are retrarded, Peat just can't be that bad, and Cam dropped with 2 sacks. Sorry, Eli aint playing better than Latt atm.


Cumulative
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8513 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:57 am to
Yeah this bullshite again. I don't need some ridiculous score to tell me what I am seeing.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Cumulative


Cam dropped with 2 sacks and a good run defense.

Even cumulative that's arse
Posted by CasanovaJones
Jackson, MS
Member since Oct 2019
73 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Cumulative


You don't say??

Still doesn't change the scores for the specific game, thanks though.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16736 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:03 am to
quote:

thought it was odd that all of our D-Line scores dropped.


Jags O Line is better than the Bucs.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81741 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:18 am to
How is Kamara so low? If he got used more frequently (which I'm not encouraging by any means, quite the opposite actually) he'd be a legit MVP candidate.

Do they penalize him for subpar blocking or something?
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:19 am
Posted by CasanovaJones
Jackson, MS
Member since Oct 2019
73 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:20 am to
Honestly, who knows? They probably just have a giant wheel they spin after every game.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:24 am to
I have no idea why people value pff. It’s laughable how bad it is.
Posted by CasanovaJones
Jackson, MS
Member since Oct 2019
73 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I have no idea why people value pff. It’s laughable how bad it is.


In all seriousness I do believe they used to be better. Not sure what has changed.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:36 am to
I don't understand how Warford went up he was directly responsible for at least one sack and he was getting beat. Wasn't like the run game was great yesterday either.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:41 am to
pff is just a self perpetuating scheme.

not something worth paying attention to.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39483 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:50 am to
Peat is the glaring weak link in this O line. Nick Easton must suck hard.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:52 am to
quote:

I don't understand how Warford went up he was directly responsible for at least one sack and he was getting beat. Wasn't like the run game was great yesterday either.



most of the good runs were behind peat too
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Jordan goes down two sacks.

They grade every play, not just 2 of them.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81741 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:07 pm to
Well they definitely pioneered an effective O-line and D-line grading system that helped enthusiastic fans put a value and a grade on positions that are typically tough to get a handle on.

It helped us have more confidence in our assertions that "Strief is middling - but tough to upgrade given our cap situation, weaknesses on defense, etc."

It has been very useful in that regard. Think that still has a home. But some of these grades like Apple v's Lattimore and Kamara are clearly very flawed. With that said, I've always maintained that Elijah Apple is a GOOD 2nd CB and I'm happy that both his play and his grade are justifying my take.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:08 pm
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