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re: Can we just trade Kamara for Fournette?
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:13 pm to partywiththelombardi
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:13 pm to partywiththelombardi
Then by your point every team with a bottom five defense should have a top five offense. Go see how many of those teams in those years have top ten offenses with bottom five defenses. My point is saints will score with kamara or without.
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:25 pm to Groundscrew85
Lol u must not have watched the jags with Bortles/ARobinson on fire.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:12 am to Groundscrew85
I’m not against it, BUT would rather trade AK for Jamal Adams and then draft a solid RB!
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:38 am to mfiredog
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I’m not against it, BUT would rather trade AK for Jamal Adams
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:39 am to DomincDecoco
Can we delete the thread? Groundscrew85 has a shift coming up at Rally's soon and I don't want him to be distracted.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:39 am to Groundscrew85
Kamara's value should probably be compared more to the WR's than the rb's. He's more valuable outside the tackles and is not tough enough to be a hammer inside. Pay is typically better and careers longer too.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:42 am to Midget Death Squad
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If he wants to get paid 16mil/yr, then most likely he is gone. The point here is that we have no idea what his asking price is, so for us to keep acting like he's being a bitch in negotiations is assinine. None of us know anything about these negotiations, yet somehow we have dipshits like the OP speaking as if they do in facts without presenting any facts.
I have a hunch that AK will be demanding to be the highest paid RB in the NFL. He might take SECOND highest-paid. I have a hunch that he'll be asking for a lot more than what he'll actually be worth going forward. AND I have a hunch that SP will over-pay for him.
We'll see.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:46 am to Groundscrew85
Well thankfully you aren’t in charge of anything but playing with yourself because that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a good minute. You’d trade a guy with a skill set that maybe 3 other RB possess and who has a good attitude and team guy for LF who has been a problem child all the way back to his LSU days and is just another power back that you can find pretty easily? Not a chance. Don’t insult AK by saying LF can catch the ball equally as well because that’s a lie. People are so quick to shite on Kamara because he had a good not great year last season but they don’t want remember he played on one leg for 75% of the year.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 2:29 pm to Groundscrew85
I would as well. AK is a shell.......
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:13 pm to Groundscrew85
Are you insane? I am all for trading Kamara because he is about due a big payday and the Saints shouldn't investing that much in a running back. But you trade him and then draft someone like CEH because he fits what the saints do and you get him for 4-5 years on a rookie contract. You don't bring in Fournette because his skill set doesn't fit the saints.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 5:36 pm to Groundscrew85
Trade Murray and a 5th rounder for Fournette and I’m in.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 6:15 pm to Groundscrew85
Most people will crap in this idea because of the LSU connection and their obsession with Kamara along with Fournette’s struggles in Jacksonville, but it’s not absurd.
Fournette has the talent and ability to be a true three down threat and can handle the beating that comes with being a primary ball carrier. He’s more dynamic than Henry and basically as physical. The main difference is that Henry has a legit line and while he was streaky before this season, getting a legit QB along with his legit OL made him MVP level.
Kamara proved this year that he cannot handle the beating of a being a primary back. That’s just not what he’s built for and that is okay. McCaffrey can which is why he got paid.
People are acting like the Saints haven’t had similar backs to Kamara in other years. Bush and Sproles played similar roles just as effectively. The fact is he can be replaced even if not fully. Ingram proved that a powerback can do well as did McCallister.
It’s not as far fetched as some think, but means Fournette needs to get in the right shape to be dominant.
Fournette has the talent and ability to be a true three down threat and can handle the beating that comes with being a primary ball carrier. He’s more dynamic than Henry and basically as physical. The main difference is that Henry has a legit line and while he was streaky before this season, getting a legit QB along with his legit OL made him MVP level.
Kamara proved this year that he cannot handle the beating of a being a primary back. That’s just not what he’s built for and that is okay. McCaffrey can which is why he got paid.
People are acting like the Saints haven’t had similar backs to Kamara in other years. Bush and Sproles played similar roles just as effectively. The fact is he can be replaced even if not fully. Ingram proved that a powerback can do well as did McCallister.
It’s not as far fetched as some think, but means Fournette needs to get in the right shape to be dominant.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 6:21 pm to Geauxgurt
Who says MI is a classic NFL powerback?
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:59 pm to goatmilker
He is a powerback by nature but a multi skilled one. Deuce was the same. Good enough catching that he could play 3 downs if needed. Fournette is like that too.
I am not advocating for the trade. Just stating it isn’t completely idiotic like some on here seem to think.
I am not advocating for the trade. Just stating it isn’t completely idiotic like some on here seem to think.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:24 pm to BenDover78
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Posts like these should warrant a lifetime ban. Just utter stupidity. I can't imagine how stupid your kids are.
How do you figure? What OP posted is a legitimate question. I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be okay with us trading Kamara for Fournette straight up.
ETA: Kamara is going to want McCaffrey money and he just isn’t worth it. He should not be paid more than McCaffrey or Zeke imo.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 8:42 am to Geauxgurt
MI is not carrying six guys to the goal line.
MI is 5'9" and 215.
I saw a DB stand up MI at the goal line on 3rd down one on one.
That is not a power back and to put MI and Deuce in the same category is criminal
MI is 5'9" and 215.
I saw a DB stand up MI at the goal line on 3rd down one on one.
That is not a power back and to put MI and Deuce in the same category is criminal
Posted on 4/19/20 at 1:02 pm to Groundscrew85
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I will get trashed for this probably but I would much rather have Fournette that Kamara.
I would much rather you not post here ever again
Posted on 4/19/20 at 1:18 pm to sweetwaterbilly
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I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be okay with us trading Kamara for Fournette straight up.
Name one that doesn’t root for LSU that would actually want this
Posted on 4/19/20 at 1:39 pm to Geauxgurt
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Kamara proved this year that he cannot handle the beating of a being a primary back. That’s just not what he’s built for and that is okay. McCaffrey can which is why he got paid.
CMC will breakdown pretty soon i think.
he was a workhorse back in college and has been for the Panthers so far.
it was an uneducated move on their part to pay up for him.
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