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Cam and Honey Badger will count over 31 million on our cap next year.

Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12046 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:43 pm
Loomis just recently signed both to huge extensions.

They were both great in their day. But honestly could have gotten young guys off the street on minimum contracts and wouldn’t have seen much of a difference this year. They will only slip further another year.

Team is going nowhere until Loomis is gone.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted by WheyCheddar
Member since Aug 2024
453 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:45 pm to
New coach will cut that old bait. No way they see the 25 team.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
17449 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:23 pm to
Everytime I watch mathieu he looks like he’s making a business decision.

He certainly needs to hang them up.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
34620 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:24 pm to
If Cam wants to come back, he’s going to come back. He’s an institution in the organization. Cutting him doesn’t get you cap relief and he’s only playing as a back up.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12046 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:32 pm to
I thought Chase Young’s cap charge of 13 million was bad and Cams is 20.

Love Cam to, but even the 9ers got rid of Joe Montana and how many superbowls did he win them? Gotta be smarter than what we doing.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 5:32 pm
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
4101 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:37 pm to
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New coach will cut that old bait. No way they see the 25 team.

Badger signed through 2028, void does not kick in until after 2025. The can was kicked so hard he’s uncuttable for 2025. You’re in the death spiral years, probably only the 2nd or 3rd inning.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12046 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:59 pm to
I think honey badger is back and Cam is a June 1st release.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50795 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:48 pm to
Would love to be in the war room with Payton and loomis going back and forth
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
106277 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:25 pm to
Cam has one more year in him hopefully at a restructured discounted contract

Unfortunately Honey Badger needs to bow out gracefully
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38336 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:03 pm to
Cutting them post June 1 only saves you $17.5 Million.

Here are the top 15 Cap savings if cut post-June 1 based on what is on over the cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints

Derek Carr - $30,000,000
Ryan Ramczyk - $18,000,000
Cameron Jordan - $11,000,000
Taysom Hill - $10,000,000
Erik McCoy - $8,305,000
Chase Young - $6,816,000
Tyrann Mathieu - $6,250,000
Nathan Shepherd - $4,820,000
Juwan Johnson - $4,625,000
Rashid Shaheed - $4,200,000
Demario Davis - $4,000,000
Khalen Saunder - $4,000,000
Foster Moreau - $3,934,000
Jamaal Williams - $3,150,000
J.T. Gray - $3,100,000

I don't know if Hill will ever play again. Ram is done and I am kind of tired of Carr. Cut or trade those guys and you free up 58 Million.
Posted by Jimclark
Member since Mar 2022
149 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:24 pm to
Ive never understood all the Cam love and his new contract
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
6740 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 4:41 am to
Dumbest moves ever...Loomis should be shown the door for such atrocities. These guys are in the twilight of their careers and age has certainly changed their prowess.
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3213 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:57 am to
You can only use 2 June 1 cuts per year. It's not as easy as cutting everyone after June 1. Now trades after June 1 are unlimited.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68981 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:26 am to
quote:

New coach will cut that old bait. No way they see the 25 team.


I got some bad news for you. It’s not that easy. Apparently the salary cap DOES actually exist.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12046 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:04 am to
Carr is not getting cut. His deal was for at least 3 years. And Mickey already restructured it last year to get under the cap so it’s almost impossible.

Ram will definitely be a post June 1st cut.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 8:06 am
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2326 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:07 am to
Cut, cut, and cut some more.
Posted by lsuatty1311
Houma
Member since Oct 2007
49 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:10 am to
Listening to WWL last night to a NFL cap expert, I think it is likely that Cam agrees to a signifiant pay cut due to diminished role. Apparently, this works to reduce cap as it is not a restructure, simply an agreed upon pay cut from the original contract. Also possible with Mathieu, but not as significant cap savings.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451966 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:12 am to
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I think it is likely that Cam agrees to a signifiant pay cut due to diminished role. Apparently, this works to reduce cap as it is not a restructure

It's a restructure, but it's not one that adds to the cap. If a player agrees to just reduce his annual salary (or a roster bonus), then we get that reduction in full. Ram did this, for example. That's not what we typically do where we convert that salary into a signing bonus (so the player gets the same $ in his pocket, ultimately). The player actually takes a real paycut.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19185 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:14 am to
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Cut or trade those guys and you free up 58 Million.

Problem is you don’t realize that relief until after 6/01, and the team needs relief now.

If you cut Carr now as a post 6/01 cut, you only get $1.3M in cap relief now, then on 6/01 you see the other $28.7M relief. They need to be cap compliant by mid-March
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75750 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:56 am to
We underestimated the value of even old Drew Brees and though the defense and run game
could keep the window open after Drew Left.

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