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Posted on 9/7/12 at 9:18 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
My reaction was....
Posted on 9/7/12 at 9:22 pm to doliss
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doliss
Posted on 9/7/12 at 10:27 pm to noonan
Here is some food for thought and a complete hijack. With the downsy refs the league now has do you think there might be an incentive pool for them to "look the other way?"
But seriously this is good news. If RG suspends the players, which we all know he will do, there will need to be more of an open forum pertaining to the evidence of a PTI scheme. If he can prove money came out of the pot for injuring players. The Saints org has mathematical proof that they were the "cleanest defense" over the time period that the commissioner claims a bounty program was in place.
But seriously this is good news. If RG suspends the players, which we all know he will do, there will need to be more of an open forum pertaining to the evidence of a PTI scheme. If he can prove money came out of the pot for injuring players. The Saints org has mathematical proof that they were the "cleanest defense" over the time period that the commissioner claims a bounty program was in place.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 10:43 pm to 10888bge
quote:
The Saints org has mathematical proof that they were the "cleanest defense" over the time period that the commissioner claims a bounty program was in place.
You'd think a team that was good enough to win a SB could, if they decided to, injure all the people they wanted, esp with the way we blitzed.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 11:04 pm to kclsufan
very happy for the players who could have easily sat back and taken this ridiculous punishment but decided to fight back against that freaking commie. frick Roger Goodell
Posted on 9/8/12 at 9:30 am to RLDSC FAN
one of the better summations i've read-
Goodell counted on Vilma to shut his mouth and take his penalty and pray for reinstatement. He counted wrong. In Vilma, we finally have seen a player unwilling to play what has become a monotonous game of “Thank God, Roger cares enough about me to punish me.”
Because he knows that is a lie.
It is the lie of the NFL that somehow the game is not dangerous but the players are. The game is dangerous, crazy stupid dangerous. The speeches given before games, the targets on players, the edict to finish hits, the JumboTrons and TV replays that play the big ones over and over are all the same. I have written this before, but when things went south in New Orleans, the league cut them loose.
What happened Friday was somebody finally told Goodell that he actually has to prove intent to injure if he wants to accuse and suspend players for that behavior.
And if there was no intent, how could Payton have stopped it? And if he could not have stopped it, why is he suspended? We know why, and unlike Vilma and his crew, Payton has no union to lobby his case to an independent panel free from doing what Roger says.
So I will do it for him: Free Sean Payton.
LINK
Goodell counted on Vilma to shut his mouth and take his penalty and pray for reinstatement. He counted wrong. In Vilma, we finally have seen a player unwilling to play what has become a monotonous game of “Thank God, Roger cares enough about me to punish me.”
Because he knows that is a lie.
It is the lie of the NFL that somehow the game is not dangerous but the players are. The game is dangerous, crazy stupid dangerous. The speeches given before games, the targets on players, the edict to finish hits, the JumboTrons and TV replays that play the big ones over and over are all the same. I have written this before, but when things went south in New Orleans, the league cut them loose.
What happened Friday was somebody finally told Goodell that he actually has to prove intent to injure if he wants to accuse and suspend players for that behavior.
And if there was no intent, how could Payton have stopped it? And if he could not have stopped it, why is he suspended? We know why, and unlike Vilma and his crew, Payton has no union to lobby his case to an independent panel free from doing what Roger says.
So I will do it for him: Free Sean Payton.
LINK
Posted on 9/8/12 at 9:37 am to blueslover
That was a great article.
Posted on 9/8/12 at 11:27 am to blueslover
Posted on 9/8/12 at 1:44 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
another worth a read
A couple of threads run through all of these conflicts. First, the union clearly made a deal with the devil in order to get the players back on the field and to get lots of basic protections of their health into the new labor deal—they let Goodell keep too much unilateral power and gave themselves too little recourse besides the courts.
Second, Goodell and the league are abusing that power like never before, and were arrogant enough to believe that it would stand up in court.
A couple of threads run through all of these conflicts. First, the union clearly made a deal with the devil in order to get the players back on the field and to get lots of basic protections of their health into the new labor deal—they let Goodell keep too much unilateral power and gave themselves too little recourse besides the courts.
Second, Goodell and the league are abusing that power like never before, and were arrogant enough to believe that it would stand up in court.
Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:36 pm to blueslover
quote:
And if there was no intent, how could Payton have stopped it? And if he could not have stopped it, why is he suspended? We know why, and unlike Vilma and his crew, Payton has no union to lobby his case to an independent panel free from doing what Roger says.
So I will do it for him: Free Sean Payton.
And it begins.
If this becomes the popular thing for the media to do, and with even Teddy Bruschi doing a complete 180 it may, then there might be enough pressure on Goodell to give it up rather than pressing ahead.
Posted on 9/8/12 at 6:59 pm to TigerinATL
So what's the O/U on how long it will take Rog to resuspend the players? I say sometime on Friday. I bet Rog wants these guys out for game 2, but wants to leave the players as little time as possible to fight it.
Either that or like 3 months.
Either that or like 3 months.
Posted on 9/8/12 at 10:02 pm to motorbreath
Goodell needs to shut it if he doesn't have the evidence. Making a fool of yourself once in a season is enough.
Posted on 9/8/12 at 10:08 pm to blueslover
quote:
A couple of threads run through all of these conflicts. First, the union clearly made a deal with the devil in order to get the players back on the field and to get lots of basic protections of their health into the new labor deal—they let Goodell keep too much unilateral power and gave themselves too little recourse besides the courts
Well said.
I wonder if in victory i.e. the CBA that fell completly in their favor, did the NFL not bring upon itself that which it wishes to avoid at all cost...Litigation.
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:18 am to goatmilker
Can anyone explain the current cap situation and how the reinstatement effects this?
Obviously it isn't an issue bc i haven't heard anything but I'm curious to know what would have happened had the Saints been just under the cap.
Obviously it isn't an issue bc i haven't heard anything but I'm curious to know what would have happened had the Saints been just under the cap.
Posted on 9/9/12 at 1:11 pm to goatmilker
That was a superb pass under pressure.
Posted on 9/9/12 at 1:11 pm to THRILLHO
Even if they review, we recovered,
Posted on 9/9/12 at 1:12 pm to THRILLHO
Can't review forward progress.
Graham will be fine.
Graham will be fine.
Posted on 9/9/12 at 1:13 pm to THRILLHO
Let's eat the clock up and go to the half down one score/
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