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re: BOUNTY SUSPENSIONS OF PLAYERS OVERTURNED!!!!!.......for now

Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:21 pm to
:nana:
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:21 pm to
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Panel did find the Saints had a system that was an "agreement to cause, or attempt to cause injury to opposing players."



I'm confused about what's what now.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:21 pm to
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Can we also retroactively get our picks back?

You SOB, Goodell!

Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:22 pm to
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:22 pm to
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Can we also retroactively get our picks back?


This brings up a very interesting point.
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15835 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Can we also retroactively get our picks back?


Are the Saints prepared to actively pursue this and the $500K fine?
Posted by kclsufan
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:24 pm to
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frick YOU, ALBERT BREER, FOR EVEN MENTIONING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Albert Breer ?@AlbertBreer Goodell does have the power simply go back, say "thanks appeals panel, I suspended them on pay-to-injure all along" and uphold suspensions.

I DARE Goodell to even think of doing this.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:24 pm to
We have Goodell on the run now. Pursue everything.
Posted by FleuryNipples
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50205 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:24 pm to
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Goodell is fricked because there is absolutely no way in hell he can prove the intent to injure facet of the case. However, there could be suspensions levied on the salary cap issue if one of those players earned the bounty and it exceeded the Saints salary cap. The Saints players financials would have a bearing on that aspect.



We're talking, at most, probably in the $30k range. I've never seen anyone THAT close to the cap. Plus in 2010 there was no cap.

As for those asking how this affects THIS year's cap, both Vilma and Smith restructured their deals, so neither is a huge cap hit this year. Vilma is either going to be $1.6m or $2.2m (he has a roster bonus, but I don't know if the roster bonus kicks in on Sunday, or maybe it already passed). Not sure about Smith. Rotoworld has older contract info on him, I'm 95% sure he restructured this past offseason, but they still have his 08 contract up there. They said his roster bonus this season was due on 3/27, though, showing that the deadline certainly can and does get set before week 1. I don't know if a suspended player is considered on the roster or not.

I'd venture to guess that we've gone from about $8m in cap space to, at worst about $5m. Remember, only 25% of Smith's contract will be affected.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11233 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:24 pm to




Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38254 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:24 pm to
Lotta unhappy butthurt falcon fans;


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Well then that's BS. They got away scotch-free? Wow. If it were some other team like the Jags, they never would have been overturned.


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Vilma nor Smith were impact players because the D sucked anyway. The Falcons will still have their way with the Taints.


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of course they won.

They had a bounty on a judge.



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Doesn't really matter Vilma is a bum with a bum knee and Smith is no threat...I actually am glad they have all of their hoodlum players back so no excuses when we stomp that azz....



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So, apparently you can get away with whatever you want in this league, as long as you make an *** of yourself on National television. Who knew?



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This is complete BULLSH*T!!! Sick and tired about hearing these Saints players appealing this and appealing that. Take the f*cking punishment like a man and serve the f*cking suspension
:rotflmao:


Link to the fun..

LINK



Oh and Falcons..
Posted by kclsufan
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Panel did find the Saints had a system that was an "agreement to cause, or attempt to cause injury to opposing players."

What the hell do they know that we don't?
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79328 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:25 pm to
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They got away scotch-free?




Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22199 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Albert Breer ?@AlbertBreer
... The important piece here is if Goodell does suspended the four Saints again, this time, is HAS to be specifically for pay-to-injure.
But does he actually have to prove it this time or is he still judge and jury? Who checks him on his decision?
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:25 pm to
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quote: Albert Breer ?@AlbertBreer Goodell does have the power simply go back, say "thanks appeals panel, I suspended them on pay-to-injure all along" and uphold suspensions.


And RG is just the SOB to do that!
This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 3:29 pm
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:26 pm to
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scotch-free
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:26 pm to
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Not Bill Walton ?@NotBillWalton
Roger Goodell has so much egg on his face that he can scramble it. And once he scrambles, Jonathan Vilma should shove him in the ground.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50205 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 3:26 pm to
Scotch-free is no way to live.
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