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re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:37 pm to Mr.Perfect
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:37 pm to Mr.Perfect
Shared responsibility for he and his wife being gunned down in the street over a bump and run? I don't think so, unless you think you would bear some responsibility for taking a few slugs for bumping into someone in a bar without saying excuse me. People who don't have any mature perspective about avoiding conflicts and the use and level of force is what i mean when I say half cocked. Too many people relish violent confrontations for the country not to seriously debate some tighter restraints on guns and the repeal of all stand your ground defenses..
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:37 pm to BigBrod81
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Wrong. Keep trying though.
wrong how? and what exactly does this have to do with anything we are discussing here?
the guy hid a witness from the police and tried to fake a call to the witness acting like she was in the house at the time. besides that, he followed a guy down the street and his story didnt match the bullet holes. not to mention the guy didnt have a weapon and there was no evidence outside of the shooter's testimony that the guy did anything to threaten him.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:37 pm to Lester Earl
quote:mad about either a fender bener or almost fender bender. People have road raged and killed before without an actual accident, so...
1)why, on Magazine street, in front of Juans Flying Burrito, do you think Hayes pulled off to the side of the road as if he was involved in a fender bender?
quote:If he didn't actually make contact, why would he stick around? FWIW, I don't know if he did or not, but the video/angle I saw, it's inconclusive, and the board seems to be 50/50 on it, which basically says yea, we don't really know.
2)why, after this, did Will Smith pull around the Hummer and speed off, running a red light in haste?
quote:Road rage?
3)why, in your estimation, did Hayes follow Smith, and not only follow him, but ram the back of Smith's Mercedes with the front of his Humer?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:38 pm to Mr.Perfect
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This will certainly increase his profile.
He's super rich now. That's the deal.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:38 pm to shel311
quote:So can I add you to the ridiculous group that cant confirm the hit and run?
shel311
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:38 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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My speculation is that smith peeled off after the initial hit, then Hayes sped off after him down Sophie Wright. With both cars traveling at a high rate of speed, Smith probably brakes hard to not crash into the impala. Hayes is following too closely and slams on his brakes as well, but it's too late and he makes impact with the Mercedes.
I agree 100% Its really sad the outcome regardless. But on here it was immediately "Hayes rammed Smith"
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Smith probably brakes hard to not crash into the impala. Hayes is following too closely and slams on his brakes as well, but it's too late and he makes impact with the Mercedes.
they will determine that if there are skid marks following the hummer.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:40 pm to BigBrod81
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So having your back turned now isn't a position of retreat or an instance that removes the imminent factor out of the equation?
Its not if you are trying to retrieve a gun
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:40 pm to LNCHBOX
Yep I do, with factory mag and standard factory loads. I made a comment about extended mags. Still would like to know make and model of .45 cal weapon used.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:40 pm to lsupride87
quote:What was it like at the scene? Must have been intense, scary.
So can I add you to the ridiculous group that cant confirm the hit and run?
Give me details!!!
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:41 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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My speculation is that smith peeled off after the initial hit, then Hayes sped off after him down Sophie Wright. With both cars traveling at a high rate of speed, Smith probably brakes hard to not crash into the impala. Hayes is following too closely and slams on his brakes as well, but it's too late and he makes impact with the Mercedes.
That's exactly what I thought too but Will Smith played for the Saints. That cant be true.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:41 pm to BigBrod81
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So having your back turned now isn't a position of retreat or an instance that removes the imminent factor out of the equation? You guys are really reaching now.
if you are reaching to grab a weapon and turn your back it certainly doesnt. if will had taken off walking down the street and the guy shot him in the back, I 100% agree. if someone threatens with a gun and reaches in their car in a confrontation, the lines are much more blurred. anyone with sense or not being purposely obtuse can see that.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:42 pm to Keeble9145
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That's exactly what I thought too but Will Smith played for the Saints. That cant be true.
What you seem to fail to grasp is that is just as much speculation as anything anyone else has said. But since you agree with it, you act like it's somehow better speculation.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:42 pm to Fun Bunch
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He's super rich now. That's the deal.
By becoming more popular that clients will hire him? How else would he become super rich? I'm curious.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:43 pm to Mouth
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they will determine that if there are skid marks following the hummer.
Twitter has photos on only one set of skid marks, which are from the hummer. No word (that I've seen) on if there were other skid marks at the scene.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:44 pm to shel311
quote:I can show you the video. Three of them actually. One actually shows vehicle debris falling
What was it like at the scene? Must have been intense, scary.
Give me details!!!
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:44 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Its not if you are trying to retrieve a gun
If the wife was indeed shot first then this is meaningless as Smith had every right to go for his gun to protect he & his wife.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:44 pm to shel311
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mad about either a fender bener or almost fender bender. People have road raged and killed before without an actual accident, so...
First of all, congrats on being the first one with enough balls to attempt to answer, but I dont think your answers are sufficient.
mad about either a fender bender, yes. Of course he was mad that his car got hit and the guy ran.
this isnt your typical roadway road rage when someone cuts someone off. Hayes has no reason to be angry if Smith almost hit him.
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and the board seems to be 50/50 on it, which basically says yea, we don't really know.
actually new video confirms that a piece of the front end of the Mercedes falls off after making contact. It's not 50/50 anymore, Its just LNCBOX that thinks it still didnt hit.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:45 pm to BigBrod81
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If the wife was indeed shot first
still not really known at this point.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:45 pm to Keeble9145
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That's exactly what I thought too but Will Smith played for the Saints. That cant be true.
no matter which side you're defending, its all speculation.
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