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Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:06 pm to Lester Earl
I can't think of a scenario where shooter shoots a driver and wife arguing at there car and it not be fricking murder
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:14 pm to Chad504boy
there are few, it just depends on the details. We just dont have enough right now
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:20 pm to Lester Earl
quote:That makes claims of self defense pretty questionable.
yea Smith was driving. You can see his body in the pics on NOLA.com slumped over the wheel
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:21 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Yea, if the attorney is correct, he stayed at the scene and called 911. I'd say that alone rules out a hit.
But it being a "hit" makes even less sense. The eyewitness said he heard them arguing for what seemed like a minute or 2. If he wanted him dead he would have shot him and fled. Instead they argued, he ended up shooting Will, and he remained on the scene.
Though I still struggle to believe that other guy who was involved in the shooter's father's incident was just a total coincidence.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:25 pm to rt3
quote:What does he care?
that lawyer also won't be on the case very long... so what does he care about what he says
Oh, I don't know, maybe just his reputation in front of tons of local media. Not much though, just that.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:26 pm to shel311
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Though I still struggle to believe that other guy who was involved in the shooter's father's incident was just a total coincidence.
6 cops shot his dad, just wondering why'd he single him out. The advocate article earlier had interviewed the former cop, it claimed he was one of the shooters, but he admitted to not even knowing he was named in Hayes' lawsuit vs NOPD.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:27 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I mean, I'm just thinking aloud, but all the facts that we seem to know as of now would point to it actually being a coincidence.
6 cops shot his dad, just wondering why'd he single him out. The advocate article earlier had interviewed the former cop, it claimed he was one of the shooters, but he admitted to not even knowing he was named in Hayes' lawsuit vs NOPD.
Why would he shoot Smith and not the actual dude. And again, why would he wait around the scene and call 911 if it was a revenge thing.
It's just very coincidental it seems.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:31 pm to shel311
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yea Smith was driving. You can see his body in the pics on NOLA.com slumped over the wheel Gotcha. Trying to think outside the box here, short of Smith having a weapon from in the car, I can't see many other examples that could legit count as self defense for the shooter.
You also cant escalate a situation and then claim self defense. So if this guy got out of his truck and went up to smith hollaring and shite, he has no chance.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:34 pm to Lester Earl
Shooters father approached the cop with a knife, then other cops shot the father. No reason at all to believe that the shooter was seeking out the cop other than the pic on Twitter but even if he saw the pic how would he know where they were?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:44 pm to diat150
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You also cant escalate a situation and then claim self defense. So if this guy got out of his truck and went up to smith hollaring and shite, he has no chance.
Thankfully this isn't Florida.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:50 pm to NoHairDontCare
safe to say this lawyer wont have much of a career in new orleans since he is representing someone that killed a former saint player.
I know its his job, but it is one that would suck
I know its his job, but it is one that would suck
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:53 pm to NoHairDontCare
And he shot the wife why?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:53 pm to saintsfan22
Actually louisianas and floridas laws are very similar.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:57 pm to beauchristopher
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And he shot the wife why?
from everything out there... seems like she caught a stray bullet
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:05 pm to rt3
wasn't she shot twice? I'm not sure.
also, wasn't Smith shot both in the torso and in the back?
why is he just holding a firearm to begin with? i could understand if he was concealing one and the went to draw it out, but this sounds like he had it out in his hand for some time?
Heh.
John Fuller a lying lawyer or making excuses for his client who is a murderer. He seems to be ignoring the whole homicide.
also, wasn't Smith shot both in the torso and in the back?
quote:
Brueggeman wrote in his arrest warrant affidavit that the witness "stated that the accused (Hayes) was holding a firearm, and used the firearm to shoot the victim."
why is he just holding a firearm to begin with? i could understand if he was concealing one and the went to draw it out, but this sounds like he had it out in his hand for some time?
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Court records show Hayes was arrested in August 2010 on suspicion of illegally carrying a weapon while in possession of a controlled dangerous substance.
Heh.
John Fuller a lying lawyer or making excuses for his client who is a murderer. He seems to be ignoring the whole homicide.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:08 pm to beauchristopher
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wasn't she shot twice?
could be wrong but I thought I saw she was only hit once
ETA: in the leg... which thankfully... apparently must've missed the artery
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:13 pm to rt3
Once sounds more believable then.
Any ways, Smith was behind the wheel? How is he the aggressor behind the wheel?
This guy Hayes, who witnesses say saw him holding a firearm is the aggressor, period.. Going up to his vehicle with a gun.. come on man..
Even if Smith was to be reaching for something, he has every right to considering some lunatic is approaching him with a weapon drawn..
Hayes is responsible for his actions period.
Tired of pussies like Hayes who confront and start something, then recognize they can't handle themselves and use the easy way out and murder someone with a gun..
Any ways, Smith was behind the wheel? How is he the aggressor behind the wheel?
This guy Hayes, who witnesses say saw him holding a firearm is the aggressor, period.. Going up to his vehicle with a gun.. come on man..
Even if Smith was to be reaching for something, he has every right to considering some lunatic is approaching him with a weapon drawn..
Hayes is responsible for his actions period.
Tired of pussies like Hayes who confront and start something, then recognize they can't handle themselves and use the easy way out and murder someone with a gun..
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:17 pm to beauchristopher
at this point there is no real reason to speculate until more info comes out. alot of people said the trayvon case was going to be a slam dunk but it obviously wasnt.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:18 pm to beauchristopher
That's a lot of speculation
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