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Assessment after ~1/4 of the season

Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79965 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:49 pm
frick 17 games for stealing 4 quarters of the season

The Good:
-The offensive line has gone from what was thought to be a legit catastrophe to serviceable and at times excellent. We’re averaging 4.6 ypc and have given up 3 sacks.
-Alvin Kamara looks great
-Defense has given up 4 touchdowns. Four.
-We’re winning the turnover margin
-The defense overall has been excellent(see below however)

The Bad:
-Too many busts on defense resulting in big play or penalty in crucial times. Cost us the last 2 weeks
-No RB depth behind AK. Alvin is on pace for 412 touches this year.
-No WR depth behind Olave and Shaheed. WRs not named Olave or Shaheed have 7 targets for the season.
-Very little TE production


The Ugly:
-Injuries are mounting up at an alarming rate. Add Mathieu, Gay, Taylor from today to the novel long injury report for this week. Not good and we won’t overcome it.

I think we’ll have a punches chance in just about every game. I don’t see anyone in the NFC bulldozing through everyone unless Sam Darnold has figured it out the Vikings are legit, idk.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34918 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:51 pm to
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RB depth behind AK. Alvin is on pace for 412 touches this year.


This can't keep up. They need to add another veteran back not named Jamal Williams.

quote:

Injuries are mounting up at an alarming rate. Add Mathieu, Gay, Taylor from today to the novel long injury report for this week. Not good and we won’t overcome it.



Can't afford any more key injuries, especially to the o line. If they lose Patrick or fuaga the saints are frickked
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33878 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:10 pm to
The Saints overachieved
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6716 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:12 pm to
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unless Sam Darnold has figured it out the Vikings are legit, idk.


Vikings are legit, 4-0 with some solid wins. Dare I say, the class of the NFC along with the Succaneers.

The Saints' problem is lack of depth just about everywhere except the DB room, epecially lineman. We are a draft or two away from making any real noise.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
326 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:15 pm to
I'm a Tyrann Mathieu fan, but he's a shell of his former self and can't tackle, Howden may be a slight improvement at safety. Losing McCoy is a killer and we have zero depth on the o-line. If Demario and Hill are out for an extended period of time, it will be hard to overcome.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3374 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:15 pm to
Talk to me by week 8 or so. Every year a team jumps out quick only to fizzle out. We shall see.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6716 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:17 pm to
Of course, see thread title.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36315 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Tyrann Mathieu fan, but he's a shell of his former self


Between him, Davis and Cam, we have NFL octogenarians starting at each level of the defense.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
48717 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

The Saints overachieved
This is the first and likely ever time I agree with Tzim.

Fools gold is what I would say. Just enough to be Al Pacino in GF3 and pull you back in. That's the history of the Saints.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
14500 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:08 pm to
You knew Allen won 1/3 of his total wins for the season by week 2. I knew we were fricked.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56198 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:48 pm to
Assessment:

This is a .500 team, but, since there are 17 games, it's an 8 win team.
Posted by Neilfish
Member since Jun 2006
3724 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 10:16 pm to
The good news, starting the next qtr of the season, we won’t lose on Sunday
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173728 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 10:20 pm to
Agree with everything.

Dennis 8-9len teams just keep finding ways to lose games.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23099 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 10:26 pm to
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Injuries are mounting up at an alarming rate. Add Mathieu, Gay, Taylor


Taysom is the biggest injury. The defense is sound even with the injuries. We need Hill and Ruiz back. McCoy will obviously be needed but we’re a few weeks from that.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23099 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Dennis 8-9len teams just keep finding ways to lose games.


History says yes. But today was not even close to Allen’s fault. They called a great game. We just didn’t execute.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79965 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:35 am to
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History says yes. But today was not even close to Allen’s fault. They called a great game. We just didn’t execute.


I agree with this and that’s why yesterday was way more frustrating than last week. We overcame the injuries and issues and fricked it away with 3 bad plays.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3458 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:39 am to
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Dennis 8-9len teams just keep finding ways to lose games.


This is a big loser mentality! The reality is that Dennis Allen's teams are always working to find ways to win games. With the way the offense has been playing the last two games, the Saints should not have even been in either of those games at the end but somehow they are always in it to the last drive.

The offense is shredded by injuries and many injured players that should not be playing are in games because there are no other options. AK should not be playing due to his injury, Olave is playing at about 70% so as not to make his groin injury a 4-5 week benching. Hill should not have played against Atlanta and now is probably out for 4 weeks. O-line is stepping up with what they have but when the opposing D taste blood they are going to pound on that weakness.

All the offensive problems and this team is still playing to win to the last drive because DA is implementing a game strategy that works for what he has on the field.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:47 am to
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I'm a Tyrann Mathieu fan, but he's a shell of his former self and can't tackle,


He has 2 INTs, 3 pass breakups, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery his calling card is he’s always around the ball. He’s like problem 100 on this team.

Depth is and has always been the issue thanks to cap constraints. No depth at OL, WR, RB. League worst TEs. Olave and Shaheed are good but should really slot at WR2 and WR3 on a contender. Nothing behind Kamara with Hill constantly hurt. OL isn’t even great at full strength much less when you get into the depth


This is going to be an up and down season, win one, lose one type year. 9-8, 8-9
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77117 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:48 am to
I thought they would be 0-4 tbh. Kubiak is better at scheming around the oline than I thought. To bad he had to scheme around injuries this much and this early. One 58 yarder from being 3-1
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