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#1 Pass blocking O-Line

Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:51 pm
1. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
2017 pass-blocking efficiency: 84.6

Best individual PBE: Max Unger, 98.0

The Saints ended the 2017 season ranked first among offensive lines with a PBE of 84.6 as the unit allowed 15 sacks, 26 hits and 69 quarterback hurries on 559 passing plays. The Saints were anchored by veteran center Max Unger, who played 100 percent of the team’s offensive snaps, doing so for a third consecutive year and allowed just 14 pressures all season. Rookie right tackle Ryan Ramczyk also enjoyed an excellent season, as he earned a pass-blocking efficiency of 96.6, the fifth-best mark ever recorded by a rookie tackle. With the Saints set to enter the 2018 campaign with left tackle Terron Armstead back to full strength, it would not be a surprise to see the Saints top this list once again.

PFF

The NFL has evolved to a who can protect or who can get to the QB game. Saints on the upswing in both.
Time for another shout on the Graham trade too. Unger was all and more of what we expected. Graham was looking for a new job this spring.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 12:54 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30087 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:27 pm to
We said it then, Saints downfall was in 2012 when they opted to not keep an all-pro, HOF caliber guard and thought they could pretty much plug and play and train/teach anyone to become all-pro.

Wrong.

I'm glad they realized it and took their time and commitment into building this OL into what it is and the potential it could become.
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4129 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:39 pm to
Going into this season with the best OL on paper in Who Dat history.

Remember when we were starting DeLapuente and Lelito regularly. Now we’re worried about 2nd or 3rd Olineman off the bench.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13233 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:47 pm to
Um.. no. There isn’t a hall of famer on this line much less two like we had in Nicks and Evans. Those were the two best guards in the league, and I don’t think you can argue that any of our five are the best at their position.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10799 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:48 pm to
Our offense is going to be even better to watch this year. Adding Meredith, Thomas/Kamara getting more experience and better, best o-line in football
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33706 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

There isn’t a hall of famer on this line much less two like we had in Nicks and Evans.


we do have 2 maulers at guard now with Peat and Warford. Probably not as skilled as Evans and Nicks were but they are able to hold their own.

Ram was easily the most impressive O-lineman we had last year IMO. Don't really care what his "grade" was but as a rookie, he did as well as we could've hoped for.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64208 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:26 pm to
True. No HoF'ers are currently on oline.
Ram is well on his way.
Peat can be if he gets some years in at same position.

Unger and Armstead can be all pro.

Posted by TigerTatorPots
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2018
155 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

There isn’t a hall of famer on this line much less two like we had in Nicks and Evans.


Great players and I hope they get the recognition they deserve. But wake me up when they’re both in the hall. This line has 5 pro bowl caliber starters. Have never seen this potential line in black and gold before
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
30087 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Great players and I hope they get the recognition they deserve. But wake me up when they’re both in the hall. This line has 5 pro bowl caliber starters. Have never seen this potential line in black and gold before



Considering we all know nicks' short career (due to the MRSA crap from TB), we know he won't make it.

He was already 2x all-pro by his 4th season in the NFL and the trend was still pointing up. Its like people forget just how good he really was and why he signed that massive contract for a guard.

This line has 5 pro-bowl caliber guys, true. The issue is going to be health and consistency.
Posted by fladohado
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2842 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:07 pm to
Just worried the loss of Kelemete will haunt us
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:02 am to
quote:

We said it then, Saints downfall was in 2012 when they opted to not keep an all-pro, HOF caliber guard and thought they could pretty much plug and play and train/teach anyone to become all-pro.

They offered what they could. He went for the money and completely turned to shite after that. Saints dodged a bullet.
Posted by TigerTatorPots
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2018
155 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:09 am to
Nicks was a headcase too. Reliable sauces
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13233 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:09 am to
5 pro bowlers?

Bushrod- pro bowler 2011, 2012
Nicks- pro bowl and all pro in 2010, 2011
Goodwin- pro bowl 2009
Evans- pro bowl from 2009-2014, all pro from 2009-2013
Stinchcomb- pro bowl 2009

Oh and Strief was the first backup then too.

Y’all need to get it together. Is this years oline really good? Absolutely. Are they the best in the NFL? Probably. Are the the best in Saints history? No.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30087 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:38 am to
quote:

They offered what they could. He went for the money and completely turned to shite after that. Saints dodged a bullet.


Reports said we didn't even reach out to him or his agent until the eve of free agency.

Sounds a lot like we didn't care too much to keep him either.

Posted by Browncoatrebel
Member since Nov 2017
1107 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:49 am to
Don't get me wrong, I love it that were no 1, but having the Bills directs behind us isn't that reassuring
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22514 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:06 am to
I also thought the Raiders take a step back but I guess not
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72503 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Going into this season with the best OL on paper in Who Dat history.





wrong
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:37 am to
We didn't want to give a huge contract to a guy that still had the same maturity concerns that caused him to fall into the 5th round in the first place, despite being a first round talent.

Iirc it was the SB season where we threatened him with being benched because he was phoning it in during practices. He responded the right way (allegedly) so we kept starting him, but it was stuff like that that made us think as soon as he got paid he was just going to phone it in.

We'll never know if that would have been the case, but we were burned by Grant just a few years before so we didn't want to chance it.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5276 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:18 am to
I must have slept through Carl Nick's HOF career. He did have a couple really good seasons as a pro bowler.

He shouldn't be waiting by the phone though.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 9:44 am
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8633 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:53 am to
1) Yes!
2) It helps when you have Drew Freaking Brees!
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