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re: Zion out tonight vs. Spurs for “personal reasons”
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:10 am to NOSHAU
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:10 am to NOSHAU
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Should he report that directly to you?
Well yes, to all of us. That is the obligation he created when he joined the team. Absences have to be documented, justified and published. It's the transparency the league guarantees to fans (especially to bettors). That is the rule.
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Actually, I wish he would take the rest of the year off for something other than an injury. We have nothing to play for and him playing does not help the team (as we should be playing for the draft pick like Utah and Toronto seem to understand).
Well you don't understand sports or athletes, which is an attitude shared by the team and probably a lot of fans. Which is why Zion is constantly up and down battling weight, motivation, and has confidence issues.
So, just so we are straight, you want him to take the rest of the year off. Do you want him to train or practice with the team? He has mostly been injured training away from the team or due to bad conditioning. How do you resolve that?
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:19 am to CP3forMVP
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On a board full of absolutely retarded statements, this may be the worst one I've seen. Are you 12?
I have been posting on here over 14 years, so the math doesn't work for that.
But let's say I was 12. Can you explain to me the circumstances that would require him to miss a game, due to a childbirth (which it's looking likely wasn't the reason at all)? Are you giving him the day, a few days, the week, what would be the appropriate time for him to miss for a standard birth?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:36 am to brmark70816
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But let's say I was 12. Can you explain to me the circumstances that would require him to miss a game, due to a childbirth (which it's looking likely wasn't the reason at all)? Are you giving him the day, a few days, the week, what would be the appropriate time for him to miss for a standard birth?
I think the answer to that question is highly dependent on the person you're asking. Me? I have two kids, with the third on the way (which wasn't "calculated" or whatever idiotic term you made earlier, which you know...happens) so in that sense, I have zero issue with him missing time to be at the birth of his child. Take a day, two days, three days? Fine, I'm good with it. Basketball pales in comparison to the birth of your child. Then you factor in where the team currently is? He could take the rest of the season to go and be with his knew child for all I care. The guy doesn't belong anywhere near a competitive court.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:53 am to brmark70816
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But childbirth shouldn't necessitate missing a game. Most players are smart enough to coordinate their child's births during the 6-month long offseason.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:06 am to bluebarracuda
The only thing I agree with is that Zion needs to keep playing to stay in shape. We don't want him to go into the offseason any sooner than normal. an extra month off could lead to another out of shape camp appearance. which is shameful to even have to have that thought process in the first place.
When both my kids were born I took the week off. But I understand my job and career does not equate to that of an NBA basketball player. But like you said, it was not clarified what the "personal" reason was. Thats why its called "personal" could have been a sick child, maybe if his wife is pregnant it was a complication. Maybe his brother or parents got sick. Again, its personal. and any employer who says, I dont care, come to work, is not an employer any one would want to work for.
Why are you so concered or upset about this? It was a lost game in a lost season. Get over it, move on. Find a new hobby if it upsets you this much.
When both my kids were born I took the week off. But I understand my job and career does not equate to that of an NBA basketball player. But like you said, it was not clarified what the "personal" reason was. Thats why its called "personal" could have been a sick child, maybe if his wife is pregnant it was a complication. Maybe his brother or parents got sick. Again, its personal. and any employer who says, I dont care, come to work, is not an employer any one would want to work for.
Why are you so concered or upset about this? It was a lost game in a lost season. Get over it, move on. Find a new hobby if it upsets you this much.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:12 am to CP3forMVP
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think the answer to that question is highly dependent on the person you're asking. Me? I have two kids, with the third on the way (which wasn't "calculated" or whatever idiotic term you made earlier, which you know...happens) so in that sense, I have zero issue with him missing time to be at the birth of his child. Take a day, two days, three days?
First, congratulations, that's great.
The timing matters. He does not have a conventional job. It is event oriented. He makes more each event than most of us do in years of working. By definition, they are all special and they are all fully guaranteed financially. It is good faith for him to make every effort to be at each event, just like the team makes that payment.
We can agree to disagree but IMO unless she's in labor during the game, the circumstance can be managed and he could have attended. I think it's that's serious.
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Basketball pales in comparison to the birth of your child.
This is a sweet sentiment. But this isn't just basketball. This is generational wealth and he is supporting his entire family with it. His contract isn't guaranteed anymore. I don't think they would waive him or anything. But his career in tenuous. That shouldn't be taken lightly.
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Then you factor in where the team currently is? He could take the rest of the season to go and be with his knew child for all I care. The guy doesn't belong anywhere near a competitive court
I don't have words for this. Zion is beyond gifted and he has wasted the majority of his career. He is finally on the cusp of ascending to the next level and you think he should shut it down? How is he going to get better at home?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:19 am to brmark70816
quote:We must have different ideas of common sense, given that your idea of common sense is NBA players should never take a single game off for anything personal, like having a kid.
Great. I'm all for that.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:21 am to brmark70816
quote:Being there for the birth of his child. That's the circumstance...
Can you explain to me the circumstances that would require him to miss a game, due to a childbirth
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:27 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:Insult to 12 year olds.
On a board full of absolutely retarded statements, this may be the worst one I've seen. Are you 12?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:44 pm to shel311
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Being there for the birth of his child. That's the circumstance...
You guys keep dodging this and it's obvious why. When did she have the baby?
You are acting like he didn't go because he was standing in the delivery room during the game. If she had the baby at noon on Saturday, he couldn't charter a plane 5 hours later to make pregame warm ups or just come watch the game?
Lost in all of this is the fact its looking more like he didn't have a kid this weekend. So he took off for another reason, which dragged into Monday, which made him questionable that day. But nobody cares. He can literally get away with anything he wants..
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:08 pm to brmark70816
You are really still bitching out essays. Crazy.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:22 pm to brmark70816
quote:By "you guys" do you also mean YOU?
You guys keep dodging this and it's obvious why. When did she have the baby?
This YOUR quote that I replied to:
quote:That is YOU saying "due to a childbirth"
Can you explain to me the circumstances that would require him to miss a game, due to a childbirth
You're really not speaking coherently on this at the moment, by continuing to discuss this about childbirth in your words then calling out others for discussing this with chidlbirth as the reasoning.
quote:He "could" do any of those things. He could skip the birth if the birth is at the exact same time as tipoff. Doesn't mean he should do any of those things. If it's the first day of his child's birth, he should do whatever he feels best for his family and not take 1 basketball game into consideration in that decision.
If she had the baby at noon on Saturday, he couldn't charter a plane 5 hours later to make pregame warm ups or just come watch the game?
quote:Well if that's the case, then you or I don't know why he took off, so it's pointless to say he's getting away with anything if you don't know why, but here you are, making assumptions like you called out others for doing, so gain, not coherent arguments you continue to make. You're constantly contradicting your own words.
So he took off for another reason, which dragged into Monday, which made him questionable that day. But nobody cares. He can literally get away with anything he wants..
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:55 pm to shel311
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Being there for the birth of his child. That's the circumstance...
With the same chick? Didn't he just have a kid? That's pretty close in time.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:21 pm to shel311
I honestly think you are messing with me and I'm just an easy target. But I'm having fun.
I have no idea if someone has a baby. Nobody seems to know.
Thank you. So you believe that this mythical person had birth during the game. Thank you.
I do not know what this means. I'm guessing it's supposed to be some kind of moral argument. But it just means he can duck games forever depending on how he believes his family will "feel" about it.
I'm debating 5-1, so I'm having to juggle multiple debates at a time and they do not all center on you.
When did I call out people for assuming anything? I just said that it might not be the case, we don't know. But people keep hammering me about him having a baby, so I respond.
How have I contradicted myself?
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By "you guys" do you also mean YOU?
I have no idea if someone has a baby. Nobody seems to know.
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That is YOU saying "due to a childbirth"
Thank you. So you believe that this mythical person had birth during the game. Thank you.
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He "could" do any of those things. He could skip the birth if the birth is at the exact same time as tipoff. Doesn't mean he should do any of those things. If it's the first day of his child's birth, he should do whatever he feels best for his family and not take 1 basketball game into consideration in that decision.
I do not know what this means. I'm guessing it's supposed to be some kind of moral argument. But it just means he can duck games forever depending on how he believes his family will "feel" about it.
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Well if that's the case, then you or I don't know why he took off, so it's pointless to say he's getting away with anything if you don't know why, but here you are, making assumptions like you called out others for doing, so gain, not coherent arguments you continue to make. You're constantly contradicting your own words.
I'm debating 5-1, so I'm having to juggle multiple debates at a time and they do not all center on you.
When did I call out people for assuming anything? I just said that it might not be the case, we don't know. But people keep hammering me about him having a baby, so I respond.
How have I contradicted myself?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:57 pm to brmark70816
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I do not know what this means
quote:In this thread
When did I call out people for assuming anything?
quote:I pointed out examples in the posts you replied to.
How have I contradicted myself?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:30 pm to shel311
In fairness to Mark, Zion deserves all the shite he can get for missing games. He has exhausted a lifetime of grace from fans.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:32 pm to brmark70816
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Lost in all of this is the fact its looking more like he didn't have a kid this weekend.
It should be easy enough to confirm that some OnlyFans skank had a baby that day.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 3:32 pm
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