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Zach Lowe On The New Orleans Brick Layers
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:51 am
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10. The Pelicans need Zion back, stat
The New Orleans Pelicans are 27th in points per possession since Zion Williamson suffered a hamstring injury. They're 3-11 since Dec. 31 -- fourth in the West, but only three games up on No. 13. They are in the morass.
Brandon Ingram missed all but one of those games. Any team would struggle without its two best players, but it has been striking how the entire conceit of the Pelicans collapses without Williamson blowing open holes in defenses.
The Pelicans are a paint-pounding battering ram. They don't shoot many 3s. Defenses clog the paint against them regardless of personnel. You just don't feel it as much with Williamson. He can dart through tight creases. If that fails, he just moves people out of the way -- or watches them retreat in fear of the linebacker roaring toward them.
Without Williamson (and Ingram), every possession is a cluttered slog.
Herbert Jones Jr. is in a hellacious slump from deep. Jose Alvarado just came out of one, but he's down to 33% after a hot start. Dyson Daniels barely looks to shoot. Defenses ignore all those guys. Without Williamson, the Pelicans are playing Larry Nance Jr. and Jaxson Hayes more at power forward. That works in doses, but it's fragile. Nance is 11-of-28 from deep; teams don't pay him much mind when he's spotting up. Ditto for Hayes and Willy Hernangomez.
The main culprit in New Orleans' cratering offense is bricky jump-shooting. There is always some bad luck baked into jump-shooting troughs, but this is something more. Worse shooters are taking harder shots. (PS: Can we please get Malik Beasley to New Orleans -- or to the Memphis Grizzlies?)
At full strength, the Pelicans can compete with anyone. They are a threat to get to the conference finals or beyond. Ingram is back, and this is a major test for him. One more losing week, and New Orleans will be fighting for its life in play-in territory.
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:58 am to TigerinATL
I keep remembering back to Griff stating in one of the offseason speeches something along the lines of "we feel one of our competitive advantages is Vinson, he can get guys to shoot so we feel comfortable taking guys that don't necessarily have that as their strong suit cause its a developmental strength of ours."
And I think we are seeing the problem with that assumption if Vinson can't magically fix everyone....or even anyone out of this current bunch.
So as a result, we just built a team with a lot of role players that can't shoot. In a game where teams are shooting and putting more points up than ever.
Not sure if Malik Beasley is the answer, but we likely need to move some guys to bring in some more court balance to the roster via shooting.
And I think we are seeing the problem with that assumption if Vinson can't magically fix everyone....or even anyone out of this current bunch.
So as a result, we just built a team with a lot of role players that can't shoot. In a game where teams are shooting and putting more points up than ever.
Not sure if Malik Beasley is the answer, but we likely need to move some guys to bring in some more court balance to the roster via shooting.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:58 am to TigerinATL
Gotta find a way to draft Gradey Dick in this upcoming draft. He's the cheapest way to solve this issue.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:02 am to TigerinATL
quote:I've been on this bandwagon for a couple of weeks now
PS: Can we please get Malik Beasley to New Orleans
quote:I've been fearing this and mentioned it for a few days now. These are scary times, these next 10 games before the All Star Break, assuming Zion will return after the break.
One more losing week, and New Orleans will be fighting for its life in play-in territory.
A bad run and our title contending season is basically done, and we'll need to have a great 22 ish game run to ensure we're not in the play in.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:12 am to shel311
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I've been on this bandwagon for a couple of weeks now
Beasley is shooting 28% in his last 10 and only at 35% on the year…Jose is at 34% by comparison and fans are begging him to stop shooting. I know he can get hot, but at 6-4 he doesn’t provide anything else if his shot continues to be off, which is concerning.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:14 am to Bronc
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And I think we are seeing the problem with that assumption if Vinson can't magically fix everyone....or even anyone out of this current bunch.
Herb is the biggest sin of Vinson imo. His release is absolutely awful. I don't understand why it didn't get the Lonzo rebuild treatment.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:17 am to TigerinATL
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Worse shooters are taking harder shots.
I think this is the truest, and most important, sentence in the entire thing.
Last game Jose stepped into multiple 3's that we could have gotten at any time in the shot clock.
Some of it is necessary (in terms of guys taking harder shots), but some of it is self inflicted.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:17 am to BamaPelican
Beasley to me is akin to a floor raiser, ceiling capper. He’s going to shoot around ish to league average, and he’s going to shoot a lot. If you don’t have much otherwise, his shooting can help. But if you have a good team, you tend to not want him jacking up shots every time he touches the ball. For this team, I do like his off ball movement and gladly take him over Graham. But I do think there will be a lot of,” please stop shooting and pass to Zion and BI.”
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:19 am to whatiknowsofar
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Herb is the biggest sin of Vinson imo. His release is absolutely awful. I don't understand why it didn't get the Lonzo rebuild treatment.
I don't know if it was the organization or himself putting too many expectations on him, but while Dyson shows some promise, his work with Herb has left a lot to be desired.
Even more frustrating is he was someone that had gained the reputation of being in the gym with Vinson night and day. But more and more it feels like it was a lot of repetition to reinforce bad habits.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:28 am to supe12sta12z
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Gotta find a way to draft Gradey Dick in this upcoming draft. He's the cheapest way to solve this issue.
Look at freshman taylor hendricks. 6'9 shooting 48/39/80 and blocks 2 shots per game. He is exactly what we need. Rim protection and shooting
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:30 am to BamaPelican
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Beasley is shooting 28% in his last 10 and only at 35% on the year…Jose is at 34% by comparison and fans are begging him to stop shooting. I know he can get hot, but at 6-4 he doesn’t provide anything else if his shot continues to be off, which is concerning.
Exactly. Go get Alec Burks, he's shooting 44% from 3
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:42 am to Balsamic_duck
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Go get Alec Burks, he's shooting 44% from 3
He's been shooting 41% from 3 for the last 4 years, and he's a really good defender, and i've been saying to go get him for probably 3 years now.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:42 am to TeddyPadillac
Ok I'm sold, I'm officially off the Beasley bandwagon and on the Burks bandwagon!
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:51 am to Balsamic_duck
Still prefer Gradey by a large margin. A true movement shooter that's shooting 43% from deep in all kinds of ways that will translate and he's doing it on a large sample size.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:52 am to shel311
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Ok I'm sold, I'm officially off the Beasley bandwagon and on the Burks bandwagon!
He's also going to be cheaper than Beasley. Frick dealing with Danny Ainge
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:55 am to TigerinATL
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The main culprit in New Orleans' cratering offense is bricky jump-shooting. There is always some bad luck baked into jump-shooting troughs, but this is something more. Worse shooters are taking harder shots.
Been saying the one thing this team was missing was shooting/spacing since the preseason. Obviously the woes have been exacerbated with our 2 best players (one being a shooter) missing significant time, but shooting was always going to be a struggle for us with the way this roster is constructed. Need to make a move ASAP.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:59 am to supe12sta12z
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Still prefer Gradey by a large margin. A true movement shooter that's shooting 43% from deep in all kinds of ways that will translate and he's doing it on a large sample size.
so you're saying this team needs ... dick. I'll see myself out
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:00 am to CP3forMVP
quote:Naji takes some of the worst 3s as well. Not sure why he is not told only to shoot 3s from the corners.
I think this is the truest, and most important, sentence in the entire thing.
Last game Jose stepped into multiple 3's that we could have gotten at any time in the shot clock.
Some of it is necessary (in terms of guys taking harder shots), but some of it is self inflicted.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:01 am to Balsamic_duck
Whatever you say. I'll takethe shooting abilities he brings to this roster no matter what his name is. But you do you baw.
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